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I don't think NX will remplace wiiu, i think NX will be système whose including wiiu

NX is in first a OS based on wiiu OS !
NX is aslo one server for online, hard disk for stockage, output display for TV and cloud computing communal... NINTENDO will sell online like equipment, not like service...
NX is aslo family of product whose connecte on the server and candidats take many forms, handless devices, smartphones or home console Simplified (APU, ram) and most likely WIIU

NX will be sell on bundle, i think a handless Wiiu + serveur, and the server will be sell single for wiiu

That is why we don't have any informations about wiiu games 2016, 2017... It's the same games on wiiu and NX
And that's is why wiiu don't change price...



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Wyrdness said:
Thunderbird77 said:

No, they wont and they didn't with TP. TP gc version couldn't be played with a wiimote + nunchuck. If it could, wii owners would simply buy the GC game, no need for a port.



 

Wtf are you on about? They made money easily with TP's port it's the highest selling Zelda game with the Wii version selling 7m by itself, what controller the version used doesn't even factor into this point.

what are you on about? If the wiimote + nunchuck could play the GC version of TP, nintendo wouldn't need to port TP and sales would be the same.

 





Akeos said:
I don't think NX will remplace wiiu, i think NX will be système whose including wiiu

NX is in first a OS based on wiiu OS !
NX is aslo one server for online, hard disk for stockage, output display for TV and cloud computing communal... NINTENDO will sell online like equipment, not like service...
NX is aslo family of product whose connecte on the server and candidats take many forms, handless devices, smartphones or home console Simplified (APU, ram) and most likely WIIU

NX will be sell on bundle, i think a handless Wiiu + serveur, and the server will be sell single for wiiu

That is why we don't have any informations about wiiu games 2016, 2017... It's the same games on wiiu and NX
And that's is why wiiu don't change price...

 

I agree



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Thunderbird77 said:
Wyrdness said:

 

Wtf are you on about? They made money easily with TP's port it's the highest selling Zelda game with the Wii version selling 7m by itself, what controller the version used doesn't even factor into this point.

what are you on about? If the wiimote + nunchuck could play the GC version of TP, nintendo wouldn't need to port TP and sales would be the same.

 



Dude did you forget your own argument or something because look at your posts here, under the logic you yourself have put forward you said a port is not required if BC is there, the fact that the Wii version sold 7m to the GC's 2m highlights doing a port is more worth while even if BC is there for the reasons mentioned already. TP sold that much because it was ported as many of the people who bought it were not interested in the GC but were interested in the Wii, WW didn't get a boost from Wii's BC for reference.





Wyrdness said:
Thunderbird77 said:

what are you on about? If the wiimote + nunchuck could play the GC version of TP, nintendo wouldn't need to port TP and sales would be the same.

 



Dude did you forget your own argument or something because look at your posts here, under the logic you yourself have put forward you said a port is not required if BC is there, the fact that the Wii version sold 7m to the GC's 2m highlights doing a port is more worth while even if BC is there for the reasons mentioned already. TP sold that much because it was ported as many of the people who bought it were not interested in the GC but were interested in the Wii, WW didn't get a boost from Wii's BC for reference.



Now you are just pretending you're not reading the posts. THE WIIMOTE + NUNCHUCK COULD NOT PLAY GAMECUBE GAMES. was it clear now? If wiimote and nunchuck could be used to play gamecube games through BC, a port wouldn't be necessary and sales would be the same. Unless you think the wii u successor's controller will remove buttons from the gamepad, it won't have any problem playing Zelda U.

Wind Waker was an old game probably already out of print. You expect sales of every previous gen game to jump with a new console that has BC?





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Thunderbird77 said:

Now you are just pretending you're not reading the posts. THE WIIMOTE + NUNCHUCK COULD NOT PLAY GAMECUBE GAMES. was it clear now? If wiimote and nunchuck could be used to play gamecube games through BC, a port wouldn't be necessary and sales would be the same. Unless you think the wii u successor's controller will remove buttons from the gamepad, it won't have any problem playing Zelda U.

Wind Waker was an old game probably already out of print. You expect sales of every previous gen game to jump with a new console that has BC?



 

WW only came out 3 years prior to the Wii's launch, your point was a port isn't needed if BC is there yet Wii had BC and even was compatible with GC controllers, this makes your whole but but Wiimote argument null and void when trying to back your argument here. What further kills this argument is that the only input missing on the Wiimote from the GC was the C-stick which is used for the camera, the Wiimote and nun-chuck actually has an extra button in its place so yes you could easily play TP with that controller with out the MC implemented but guess what a port still happened.

Straight up TP shoots down your argument, the are various reasons why a port is done and it's more then just controls.



Wyrdness said:
Thunderbird77 said:

Now you are just pretending you're not reading the posts. THE WIIMOTE + NUNCHUCK COULD NOT PLAY GAMECUBE GAMES. was it clear now? If wiimote and nunchuck could be used to play gamecube games through BC, a port wouldn't be necessary and sales would be the same. Unless you think the wii u successor's controller will remove buttons from the gamepad, it won't have any problem playing Zelda U.

Wind Waker was an old game probably already out of print. You expect sales of every previous gen game to jump with a new console that has BC?



 

WW only came out 3 years prior to the Wii's launch, your point was a port isn't needed if BC is there yet Wii had BC and even was compatible with GC controllers, this makes your whole but but Wiimote argument null and void when trying to back your argument here. What further kills this argument is that the only input missing on the Wiimote from the GC was the C-stick which is used for the camera, the Wiimote and nun-chuck actually has an extra button in its place so yes you could easily play TP with that controller with out the MC implemented but guess what a port still happened.

Straight up TP shoots down your argument, the are various reasons why a port is done and it's more then just controls.

The wii was compatible with the gamecube controller but didn't include one (doing so would be needlessly costly). 3 years is a long time, you can't compare games released much earlier with one releasing at the same time as the console. The wiimote is not compatible with gamecube games, with or without the lack of buttons. Nintendo had to either port the game or include a GC controller, so porting was the obvious choice (the hardware being the same also made the port possible and done quickly). Something like this won't happen in the future, thanks to wireless tech on controllers.





Thunderbird77 said:

The wii was compatible with the gamecube controller but didn't include one (doing so would be needlessly costly). 3 years is a long time, you can't compare games released much earlier with one releasing at the same time as the console. The wiimote is not compatible with gamecube games, with or without the lack of buttons. Nintendo had to either port the game or include a GC controller, so porting was the obvious choice (the hardware being the same also made the port possible and done quickly). Something like this won't happen in the future, thanks to wireless tech on controllers.



 


Except Nintendo are not against packing things with games, they did it with SS and have bundles in games like Smash for example plus have GC controller bundles the were 22m or so GCs sold by the time Wii U launched so a number of people already had them plus they weren't hard to get a hold of, the only button that the Wiimote and Nunchuck couldn't replicate was the C-stick for camera control. 3 years is not long enough for a game like Zelda to be out of print.

The were 3 main reasons for the port, one was to push sales of the new platform, 2 so it can be marketed as a game for the new platform thus reduce confusion for new consumers as well as point them more to the new platform and finally 3 was to give the game as big a potential consumer base as possible especially being the biggest most expensive game at the time for the company. These 3 reasons are why it's likely Zelda U will have an NX version, a controller is a null and void issue for Nintendo if BC is present because they've shown they'll bundle and controllers in general are actually dirt cheap for companies to produce.

The first 2 reasons are also the main reasons behind TP being delayed on GC to begin with because they needed the game to be newly release for maximum impact, the game's draw would have been reduced had it launched a year earlier on GC as planned. It's all a strategy even if the Wiimote was a standard controller the Wii would have still got a port of TP.



I'll have a wait and see approach. We have no hard evidence right now that hints at a 2016 or a 2017 release. While I would like Wii U to last another year, I can't deny the fact that Nintendo's going back and forth between that and 3DS has caught up to them. We can't expect them to release a consistent stream of games while maintaining their quality. HD is expensive and takes longer to create games. That's why assets from previous games are being used. Trying to create a completely new engine and game would take a while. 3DS is declining and is considered the old man of the generation not only for its length in the market, but also for its tech. We'll just have to see what gets replaced first.



Aeolus451 said:
atomicblue said:
I agree with you, OP.

I just wish this wasn't even a topic of discussion. I was tired of reading about this six months ago.

 


It's gonna be a long year. I only post in some of the more interesting ones. 

It's only a long year if you spend a lot of time on gaming sites, where people bring this subject up on a regular basis. VGC is a particularly bad offender, hence why I don't read these forums too often.