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b00moscone said:
but you have to take into consideration that a lot of Nintendo's studios are busy with projects for current gen systems.

 

U sure about that?

EAD Group 1 released Mario Kart 8 in May 2014 and worked on DLC for about a year.

EAD Group 2 released Splatoon & Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer in mid-2015.

EAD Group 4 released Super Mario Maker in September 2015, Pikmin 4 in development but without a specified platform.

EAD Tokyo released Super Mario 3D World in November 2013 followed by Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker in November 2014.

Retro Studios released Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze in February 2014.

Hal Laboratories released Kirby: Triple Deluxe in January 2014 followed by Kirby: Rainbow Curse in February 2015.

Intelligent Systems released Fire Emblem: Fates in June 2015.

ND Cube released Mario Party 10 & Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival in 2015.

Monolith Soft released Xenoblade Chronicles X in April 2015.

Do u think these teams that finished projects in 2014/2015 are working on new 3DS/Wii U projects or have moved on to NX?

Let's look at the Nintendo IP releasing this year, Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam (outsourced, 2015 localization), Fire Emblem: Fates (2015 localization), Twilight Princess HD (outsourced, HD port), Hyrule Warriors Legends (outsourced port), Pokken Tournament (outsourced, 2015 localization), Star Fox Zero (co-developed, delayed 2015 title), SMT x Fire Emblem (outsourced, 2015 localization), Metroid Prime: Federation Force (outsourced), Legend of Zelda U (delayed 2015 title).

With the exception of EAD Group 5 co-developing Star Fox & EAD Group 3 working on Legend of Zelda (could be cross-gen) there are no known internal studios or subsidiaries working on 3DS or Wii U titles. Nintendo is most likely working full force on NX titles.



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Soundwave said:

My personal feeling is the central NX hardware model is a portable console (it can function as both, hence it's a new type of game platform) with a processor in the same ball park as things like the Tegra X1 and Apple A9X chip, which are powerful but not actually that expensive for the processor.

This model they are aiming for November 2016, whether they can make that who knows, but I think they are trying hard because Wii U and 3DS (at this stage) sales are both mediocre quite honestly and they probably don't want to waste another fiscal year with just those two. 3DS needs to be replaced even if you don't think the Wii U does. 

Other more specific models (ie: maybe a home only console) may come later as 2017 and even 2018 go along but these will simply play the same games as the NX releasing in 2016 does, just maybe with better graphics (for the dedicated console). Or they may just ditch the console and go with that "supplementary add-on" that they patented for more power. 

There's no such thing as a portable console.





zorg1000 said:

 

U sure about that?

EAD Group 1 released Mario Kart 8 in May 2014 and worked on DLC for about a year.

EAD Group 2 released Splatoon & Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer in mid-2015.

EAD Group 4 released Super Mario Maker in September 2015, Pikmin 4 in development but without a specified platform.

EAD Tokyo released Super Mario 3D World in November 2013 followed by Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker in November 2014.

Retro Studios released Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze in February 2014.

Hal Laboratories released Kirby: Triple Deluxe in January 2014 followed by Kirby: Rainbow Curse in February 2015.

Intelligent Systems released Fire Emblem: Fates in June 2015.

ND Cube released Mario Party 10 & Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival in 2015.

Monolith Soft released Xenoblade Chronicles X in April 2015.

Do u think these teams that finished projects in 2014/2015 are working on new 3DS/Wii U projects or have moved on to NX?

Let's look at the Nintendo IP releasing this year, Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam (outsourced, 2015 localization), Fire Emblem: Fates (2015 localization), Twilight Princess HD (outsourced, HD port), Hyrule Warriors Legends (outsourced port), Pokken Tournament (outsourced, 2015 localization), Star Fox Zero (co-developed, delayed 2015 title), SMT x Fire Emblem (outsourced, 2015 localization), Metroid Prime: Federation Force (outsourced), Legend of Zelda U (delayed 2015 title).

With the exception of EAD Group 5 co-developing Star Fox & EAD Group 3 working on Legend of Zelda (could be cross-gen) there are no known internal studios or subsidiaries working on 3DS or Wii U titles. Nintendo is most likely working full force on NX titles.

EAD Group 1: Sure, but they are usually responsible some of the bigger games, and if they're working on a launch title i'd imagine it'd be fairly big, so i doubt it would only have a 1-1.5 year dev cycle.

EAD Group 2: Pretty much EAD Group 1.

EAD Group 4: As i said, Pikmin 4 may possibly be an NX title, but it can very much be a Wii U title as well.

EAD Tokyo: Perhaps, but depends on when they have been given a dev kit, if they've been given one at all.

Retro: Their last game released early 2014, about 2.5 years before when people think the NX will release. I doubt they were given dev kits back then, so they must be working on something else.

HAL: They could release a game for 2016, in the caliber of Rainbow Curse.

Intelligent: I imagine they've just finished the translation not too long ago, and even if they outsourced that to another developer, still not enough time.

ND Cube: They could pump a game in-time for late 2016.

Monolith: They tend to have gaping development times, so they're not really a good source for when the NX is releasing :P

For your question: "Do u think these teams that finished projects in 2014/2015 are working on new 3DS/Wii U projects or have moved on to NX?" Sure they can be working on 3DS/Wii U titles, you're just simply riding on the assumption that the NX is releasing in 2016. For all we could know, we could just get a speckle of details this year on the NX and it could release in a few years.

As I said, we won't know anything until we get details, so we should just wait. But as for what the studios are up to, you're pretty much right in saying a lot of them are working on unannounced games, which could of course be NX titles.





 

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Random_Matt said:
Doesn't matter what they do in my opinion. The console will fail if they wait till 2017, the longer it goes, the irrelevance continues. Sony and Microsoft have large user bases, Nintendo have nothing to grab onto and they should just stick to handheld and mobile.

 


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b00moscone said:
zorg1000 said:

 

U sure about that?

EAD Group 1 released Mario Kart 8 in May 2014 and worked on DLC for about a year.

EAD Group 2 released Splatoon & Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer in mid-2015.

EAD Group 4 released Super Mario Maker in September 2015, Pikmin 4 in development but without a specified platform.

EAD Tokyo released Super Mario 3D World in November 2013 followed by Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker in November 2014.

Retro Studios released Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze in February 2014.

Hal Laboratories released Kirby: Triple Deluxe in January 2014 followed by Kirby: Rainbow Curse in February 2015.

Intelligent Systems released Fire Emblem: Fates in June 2015.

ND Cube released Mario Party 10 & Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival in 2015.

Monolith Soft released Xenoblade Chronicles X in April 2015.

Do u think these teams that finished projects in 2014/2015 are working on new 3DS/Wii U projects or have moved on to NX?

Let's look at the Nintendo IP releasing this year, Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam (outsourced, 2015 localization), Fire Emblem: Fates (2015 localization), Twilight Princess HD (outsourced, HD port), Hyrule Warriors Legends (outsourced port), Pokken Tournament (outsourced, 2015 localization), Star Fox Zero (co-developed, delayed 2015 title), SMT x Fire Emblem (outsourced, 2015 localization), Metroid Prime: Federation Force (outsourced), Legend of Zelda U (delayed 2015 title).

With the exception of EAD Group 5 co-developing Star Fox & EAD Group 3 working on Legend of Zelda (could be cross-gen) there are no known internal studios or subsidiaries working on 3DS or Wii U titles. Nintendo is most likely working full force on NX titles.

EAD Group 1: Sure, but they are usually responsible some of the bigger games, and if they're working on a launch title i'd imagine it'd be fairly big, so i doubt it would only have a 1-1.5 year dev cycle.

EAD Group 2: Pretty much EAD Group 1.

EAD Group 4: As i said, Pikmin 4 may possibly be an NX title, but it can very much be a Wii U title as well.

EAD Tokyo: Perhaps, but depends on when they have been given a dev kit, if they've been given one at all.

Retro: Their last game released early 2014, about 2.5 years before when people think the NX will release. I doubt they were given dev kits back then, so they must be working on something else.

HAL: They could release a game for 2016, in the caliber of Rainbow Curse.

Intelligent: I imagine they've just finished the translation not too long ago, and even if they outsourced that to another developer, still not enough time.

ND Cube: They could pump a game in-time for late 2016.

Monolith: They tend to have gaping development times, so they're not really a good source for when the NX is releasing :P

For your question: "Do u think these teams that finished projects in 2014/2015 are working on new 3DS/Wii U projects or have moved on to NX?" Sure they can be working on 3DS/Wii U titles, you're just simply riding on the assumption that the NX is releasing in 2016. For all we could know, we could just get a speckle of details this year on the NX and it could release in a few years.

As I said, we won't know anything until we get details, so we should just wait. But as for what the studios are up to, you're pretty much right in saying a lot of them are working on unannounced games, which could of course be NX titles.



Most of what u said is irrelevant to what I said. Ur original comment was that a lot of Nintendo studios are currently working on 3DS/Wii U titles, I showed u that this is untrue, most of their studios finished up projects in 2014/2015, these teams will not be developing projects for 3DS/Wii U, they will have moved to making games for next-generation devices.



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b00moscone said:
I agree. While some people are arguing about the Wii U lineup, i certainly don't see an NX one either. Sure, you can dish out the argument that none can really be announced at this point, but you have to take into consideration that a lot of Nintendo's studios are busy with projects for current gen systems. The only possible games at this point that could come for NX are Pikmin 4, of which we haven't been told what platform its on, and Zelda U, which is simply from the suspicious delays. However, Zelda games tend to be delayed often so you'd have to tread lightly there.

But really, any of us could be right or wrong, but Nintendo hasn't said a word in-terms of any details for NX, so all we can do and should do is wait patiently until they do so.

Basically we didn't had almost not one new bigger announcement that isn't spinoff, smaller project or port, all those projects were developed buy smaller teams while all big teams are working on NX games for quite time. Only Zelda U and Pikmin 4 are bigger titles left from this gen, and both will probably be released on NX too.

Zelda U port, Pikmin 4 are most obvious launch titles for NX, but you forgetting that Mario 3D World was finished back in 2013, so we probably will have new 3D Mario game for NX launch this year. Retro Project probably will be realased in 2017, same like some other titles.



Darashiva said:
I think a lot of it depends on when they will release Wii U Zelda. If it's coming near the holiday season, then I highly doubt Nintendo will put out a new console to take away attention from it. That is unless they decide to put the game on both console and announce a simultaneous release of the game for both of them, but there's been no indication of that yet.

Even so, I don't expect a new home console from Nintendo until next year at the earliest.

Zelda U port for NX is almost certain. Nintendo already done same thing with Zelda Twilight Princess.





We're just going in circles, at this point I'ma just wait and see, not much longer now!



Miyamotoo said:
Darashiva said:
I think a lot of it depends on when they will release Wii U Zelda. If it's coming near the holiday season, then I highly doubt Nintendo will put out a new console to take away attention from it. That is unless they decide to put the game on both console and announce a simultaneous release of the game for both of them, but there's been no indication of that yet.

Even so, I don't expect a new home console from Nintendo until next year at the earliest.

Zelda U port for NX is almost certain. Nintendo already done same thing with Zelda Twilight Princess.



So the possibility that, I don't know, they're just working on improving it and making it better isn't an option?

its not like a Zelda game hasn't been delayed before. Wait until what Nintendo has to say.





 

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If they release NX before Holiday 2017, they will be shootibg themselves in the foot and it would be WiiU all over again. This thing needs a proper gen shift to be relevant. It will be only slightly stronger than the PS4, IF AT ALL and that won't be enough to shift momentum from PS4 OR X1 for that matter. People are going to follow their friends and that ship has sailed for the most part.

People who buy the NX if it is released too soon will consist of Ninty fans and multi console gamers. In short, the same as the ones that bought the WiiU.



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