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Derek89 said:
dongo8 said:
Useful article, regardless of the title, this guy knows what he is talking about. http://www.cnet.com/news/why-ultra-hd-4k-tvs-are-still-stupid/

but, but... http://www.cnet.com/news/4k-tvs-arent-stupid-anymore/

Haha, that's awesome. But to me, buying one in general regardless of price just seems silly to me because you can buy far cheaper TVs with pictures just as good to the human eye. I know they sound appealing because they have a higher resolution number than 1080p, but seriously eyes don't care. It all looks the same, no lie.





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dongo8 said:

Sure, but only if you are buying an 80+ inch screen, I'd like to see you TRY and differentiate between 4k and 1080p on a standard living room sized TV (60 or smaller generally). Once 4k projectors become more prevalent, those will make a hell of a lot more sense than buying an 80 inch TV to take up a whole living room wall. Also, I said HARDLY ANY shows and movies available, which is absolutely true. Sure there are going to be more and more available because 4k/Ultra HD is the "In" thing, but it still makes hardly any difference to the human eye. They are analog and don't care about minute pixel details from the distance you would be watching a TV from. Look up the science

Do you really know what you're talking about though? I mean projectors? Really? Picture quality and contrast, heard of it? If you have money, 4k is the thing to buy now. If you buy 1080p now you can get a new one in 2 years.

I got myself a Samsung JS9500 in 65". It has backlight in a lot of zones, great contrast, quantum dot and HDR, aka the only new technology TVs will get in the enxt 5 years. It's future proof and even moreso since you can upgrade the oneconnect box that houses most of the important hardware. It can't get any more future proof than that.

Yeah sure it was costly but that's what it takes to have the currently best TV on the market. So I'd try to tone down your absolutes of "it makes no sense to buy now". There is already plenty of 4k material and it's going to ramp up significantly in the next 2 years.

And yes, the difference of 1080p and 4k on a 65" at the distance of 3m is huge.



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vivster said:
dongo8 said:

Sure, but only if you are buying an 80+ inch screen, I'd like to see you TRY and differentiate between 4k and 1080p on a standard living room sized TV (60 or smaller generally). Once 4k projectors become more prevalent, those will make a hell of a lot more sense than buying an 80 inch TV to take up a whole living room wall. Also, I said HARDLY ANY shows and movies available, which is absolutely true. Sure there are going to be more and more available because 4k/Ultra HD is the "In" thing, but it still makes hardly any difference to the human eye. They are analog and don't care about minute pixel details from the distance you would be watching a TV from. Look up the science

Do you really know what you're talking about though? I mean projectors? Really? Picture quality and contrast, heard of it? If you have money, 4k is the thing to buy now. If you buy 1080p now you can get a new one in 2 years.

I got myself a Samsung JS9500 in 65". It has backlight in a lot of zones, great contrast, quantum dot and HDR, aka the only new technology TVs will get in the enxt 5 years. It's future proof and even moreso since you can upgrade the oneconnect box that houses most of the important hardware. It can't get any more future proof than that.

Yeah sure it was costly but that's what it takes to have the currently best TV on the market. So I'd try to tone down your absolutes of "it makes no sense to buy now". There is already plenty of 4k material and it's going to ramp up significantly in the next 2 years.

And yes, the difference of 1080p and 4k on a 65" at the distance of 3m is huge.

Yes, projectors, they take up far less room, and the picture quality is getting better and better with each passing iteration. Have you ever watched a movie on a super high quality projector? Even now it's pretty epic. And yes, I do know what I'm talking about - science. I don't give a crap if it's future proof, it's unnecessary, my eyeball told me so.





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dongo8 said:

Sure, but only if you are buying an 80+ inch screen, I'd like to see you TRY and differentiate between 4k and 1080p on a standard living room sized TV (60 or smaller generally). Once 4k projectors become more prevalent, those will make a hell of a lot more sense than buying an 80 inch TV to take up a whole living room wall. Also, I said HARDLY ANY shows and movies available, which is absolutely true. Sure there are going to be more and more available because 4k/Ultra HD is the "In" thing, but it still makes hardly any difference to the human eye. They are analog and don't care about minute pixel details from the distance you would be watching a TV from. Look up the science

No matter how much I love new tech, I kinda have to agree with this.
On my 52" living room 1080p tv it's already not that easy to see the difference between 720p and 1080p. It's night and day on a 1080p projector, yet 4K projectors are still in the $8000 range. 55" 4k TV only makes sense if you sit max 6 feet from it.

That's not to dismiss watching 4K content on a 1080p tv. 4k Netflix downsampled to 1080p should finally look like blu-ray quality. Same for cable. The avg 7 mbps 1080i mpeg 2 stream I get now from cable at times hardly matches 480p you tube quality. 4k content on 4K tvs looks better in stores, 4k content on 1080p tvs would look better in stores too. Of course I don't know if you can get 4K Netflix working on a 1080p tv, 4k you tube seems to work fine on my 1080p laptop, looks great.

That's not to say I wouldn't want one of these
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/samsung-samsung-85-4k-ultra-hd-led-tizen-smart-os-tv-un85ju7100fxzc-metal-black-un85ju7100fxzc/10371930.aspx?path=f550065c6dc28ab1a7e7e26e2a1f4cccen02
Only $15000 always fun to read the reviews
Howdy best buy customers! I purchased this Television Set about a few months ago. Yeah it is a little expensive but the quality is unreal. The box it came in is also really spacious which is convenient because i now live in it. My son Conner also has is own room in the box with a full sized bed and his own 32 inch television. No mortgage, no worries!

That said, if my living room tv breaks, next will be 60" or 65" 4K tv. I hope it lasts long enough so I also have something to watch on it when I buy one. I'll make sure to buy one that can display 10 bit color for 4k blu-ray. Contrast and color reproduction are more important to me than a few ms of lag.



SvennoJ said:
dongo8 said:

Sure, but only if you are buying an 80+ inch screen, I'd like to see you TRY and differentiate between 4k and 1080p on a standard living room sized TV (60 or smaller generally). Once 4k projectors become more prevalent, those will make a hell of a lot more sense than buying an 80 inch TV to take up a whole living room wall. Also, I said HARDLY ANY shows and movies available, which is absolutely true. Sure there are going to be more and more available because 4k/Ultra HD is the "In" thing, but it still makes hardly any difference to the human eye. They are analog and don't care about minute pixel details from the distance you would be watching a TV from. Look up the science

No matter how much I love new tech, I kinda have to agree with this.
On my 52" living room 1080p tv it's already not that easy to see the difference between 720p and 1080p. It's night and day on a 1080p projector, yet 4K projectors are still in the $8000 range. 55" 4k TV only makes sense if you sit max 6 feet from it.

That's not to dismiss watching 4K content on a 1080p tv. 4k Netflix downsampled to 1080p should finally look like blu-ray quality. Same for cable. The avg 7 mbps 1080i mpeg 2 stream I get now from cable at times hardly matches 480p you tube quality. 4k content on 4K tvs looks better in stores, 4k content on 1080p tvs would look better in stores too. Of course I don't know if you can get 4K Netflix working on a 1080p tv, 4k you tube seems to work fine on my 1080p laptop, looks great.

That's not to say I wouldn't want one of these
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/samsung-samsung-85-4k-ultra-hd-led-tizen-smart-os-tv-un85ju7100fxzc-metal-black-un85ju7100fxzc/10371930.aspx?path=f550065c6dc28ab1a7e7e26e2a1f4cccen02
Only $15000 always fun to read the reviews
Howdy best buy customers! I purchased this Television Set about a few months ago. Yeah it is a little expensive but the quality is unreal. The box it came in is also really spacious which is convenient because i now live in it. My son Conner also has is own room in the box with a full sized bed and his own 32 inch television. No mortgage, no worries!

That said, if my living room tv breaks, next will be 60" or 65" 4K tv. I hope it lasts long enough so I also have something to watch on it when I buy one. I'll make sure to buy one that can display 10 bit color for 4k blu-ray. Contrast and color reproduction are more important to me than a few ms of lag.

Well, let's be realistic here. Of course the projectors are in the thousands.

 

Smart 4k TV's have just gotten an average of under 1000 dollars(for a maximum of around 60 inches). Projectors are a whole different levels. LG is currently making many projectors. 8k will most likely come by the time of 2018-2020. By then, a 4k projector should be around 500-1000 dollars(or more if you love spending cash)





 

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Just some friendly advice but if you're in the market for a new TV, there are enough options out there to make sure that it's not only a smart TV, but 120hz as well. Beyond those features I would stick with Sony, Samsung or LG which make quality TVs for the price. Also, there is no reason now nor the foreseeable future to have 3D as a feature and its sort of a waste unless you're personally interested in something like that.

 

4K is a waste btw. At least for now. I would invest right before the end of the current gen, while your 1080p TV has resale value



bigtakilla said:

If it isn't 4k and at least 60hz, then no.

 


Why would you need a 4k TV when all current consoles only support 1080P at best? We are talking specifically about gaming here.



Guitarguy said:
bigtakilla said:

If it isn't 4k and at least 60hz, then no.

 


Why would you need a 4k TV when all current consoles only support 1080P at best? We are talking specifically about gaming here.

Do you not think any of the next gen consoles will even dabble in the 4k gaming zone? I do, and even if the next consoles release 5 or 6 years after PS4 or Xbone that's only 3 or 4 years away.

*EDIT* Note that I am NOT by any means saying 4k will be the standard, but they systems will support 4K,and there will be a handful of them.



bigtakilla said:
Guitarguy said:
bigtakilla said:

If it isn't 4k and at least 60hz, then no.

 


Why would you need a 4k TV when all current consoles only support 1080P at best? We are talking specifically about gaming here.

Do you not think any of the next gen consoles will even dabble in the 4k gaming zone? I do, and even if the next consoles release 5 or 6 years after PS4 or Xbone that's only 3 or 4 years away.

*EDIT* Note that I am NOT by any means saying 4k will be the standard, but they systems will support 4K,and there will be a handful of them.

 

Maybe some indie games. I vaguely remember the specs of the PS4 and Xbox 1 stating 4k would only be possible natively for images and blu-ray, not gaming. I could be wrong on this. Also, current games have a hard enough time processing 1080P, let alone 4k(2160P if you want to get technical).

I personally do NOT see it happening this gen other than in independent games that lack the visual prowess of AAA games. If at all.



I think the reason they call it the Ultimate Gaming TV is that it has the lowest input lag of any modern HDTV. I purchased the 55 inch W8 model when it was released in the Summer of 2014 (for slightly over £1000 if I remember correctly) and am very happy with it.