Yes, screw the female party members. They really add nothing to the game In 90% of JRPGS.
Would you like to have female characters playable in Final Fantasy XV? | |||
Yes | 54 | 79.41% | |
No | 10 | 14.71% | |
Total: | 64 |
Yes, screw the female party members. They really add nothing to the game In 90% of JRPGS.
VXIII said:
New theme for the Jrpgs scene I said, the road trip theme itself is indeed known. However, it is not separated from other themes and events of the story that make it meaningful. Each party has unique dynamics. Different kind relationships can be told through different kind of characters. It is a matter of perspective. What can be explained through comradeship of male characters can not be simulated by having females, and vice versa. It opens unique opportunities. Which is the reason for not having girls. So there is no "pressure to limit" anything. Different perspective. That is how I see it. |
I am still not seeing why there can't be a comradeship with a female character or two unless their view of a female character is a stereotypical love interest/feminine female. Representing genres as archetypes is bad writing. And I don't think the road trip trope is necessarily new to the genre. It just never was explictly represented as an actual road trip.
pokoko said:
What the ... Whoa there, Barn. Put the bullet back in your pocket before you hurt yourself. I'm not sure what you're talking about but it sure sounds like you're trying to blow this way out of proportion. I think you might want to find a mirror before you start talking about crazy reactions. First of all, don't imply that others are being "dumb" then call someone childish. Pot, kettle on line one. You are the only one calling people names. Read back over the posts and then deny that. Second, don't try to make sarcasm out to be some kind of internet rage. I was hardly spamming exclaimation marks. Seriously, don't do this. Tactics like this are lame. They will only make you look fake and/or silly. If you want to discuss in a civil manner then don't start out with an insult. I don't even understand how that would be a point of confusion. As for the rest of what you're saying, I simply do not believe that you buy every game out there to see if you like it or not. Very few people are both willing and able to do that. Most of us have to make a decision based on avaliable media--and, yes, that's the proverbial "book cover", which for games is pretty extensive. People do this all the time. Personally, I don't care for the character designs. They look like they're about to go clubbing instead of adventuring. I don't like that there are only five party members and that you only control one of them. From what I've seen in videos, the battle system does not appeal to me very much. I think that's enough for me to form the initial impression that I'm just not very interested in this game at this point in time. |
Ok I'm just going to ignore everything you started off with. Looks like we both got confused or just me. I thought you were getting mad, you say you weren't and that's good enough for me. I'll chalk it up to miscommunication.
I do not buy every game out there you're 100% right about that. I buy the games I can and the rest I wait for a while some I get back to some I don't. What you described is much more than just judging a book by it's cover. You went out of your way to watch videos of the combat, getting info on the number of playable characters, and other game mechanics none of which appealed to you. In your initial statement I was under the impression that you were simply judging the game base on the characters. I can completely understand you not liking the game with the reasons you gave here.
IAmCrimsonLegion said: I don't care if one gender is playable or not, as long as the game is good. I didn't have any issues at all with FFX-2's all female group back when I was a kid. If it were an all-female group in this game, I'd feel the same way if there were no playable guys. The fact that the director even has to explain himself about their role in the game speaks volumes, though. |
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I'm fine with it ...
Male characters are far better written in FF ...
sc94597 said: I am still not seeing why there can't be a comradeship with a female character or two unless their view of a female character is a stereotypical love interest/feminine female. Representing genres as archetypes is bad writing. And I don't think the road trip trope is necessarily new to the genre. It just never was explictly represented as an actual road trip.
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There could be, and there's nothing wrong with that. Each Final Fantasy is different, and I think having an all male party is just one way this FF is trying to be different and stand out. All of their personalities will be decidedly masculine... what is the point of swapping a character's gender if they're going to behave more or less the same anyway? Just for the sake of diversity? Sorry if I'm misunderstanding you. And "representing genres as archetypes" does not automatically make for bad writing. It depends on the context.
Sony, if you're reading this, do something new with The Legend of Dragoon. You will make me a happy man. Thanks.
A_Robo_Commando said:
There could be, and there's nothing wrong with that. Each Final Fantasy is different, and I think having an all male party is just one way this FF is trying to be different and stand out. All of their personalities will be decidedly masculine... what is the point of swapping a character's gender if they're going to behave more or less the same anyway? Just for the sake of diversity? Sorry if I'm misunderstanding you. And "representing genres as archetypes" does not automatically make for bad writing. It depends on the context. |
Because people are people and most aren't hypermasculine nor hyperfeminine. A female character can have a femine perspective and certain femine features without being a stereotypical woman. She could also have the same comradery that a male character has while retaining it. Ultimately though it adds diversity to the cast and can be interesting to have an intermixture of sexes without either being stereotypes. When somebody says the cast must be all male, it makes it seem as if they don't have the imagination to write a realistic female character that can have that same sense of comradery. My point is that there needs to be a better reason (plot-wise) for the impediment of role-playing than, "a female character would lack comradery."
sc94597 said:
Because people are people and most aren't hypermasculine nor hyperfeminine. A female character can have a femine perspective and certain femine features without being a stereotypical woman. She could also have the same comradery that a male character has while retaining it. Ultimately though it adds diversity to the cast and can be interesting to have an intermixture of sexes without either being stereotypes. When somebody says the cast must be all male, it makes it seem as if they don't have the imagination to write a realistic female character that can have that same sense of comradery. My point is that there needs to be a better reason (plot-wise) for the impediment of role-playing than, "a female character would lack comradery." |
So... because diversity. Gotcha. I mean, if that's your preference, more power to ya.
I didn't see the line about comradery on here. I agree with your position on that. Not that a reason is needed to have an all male party, but if you're going to have one, "comradery" is kinda lame.
Sony, if you're reading this, do something new with The Legend of Dragoon. You will make me a happy man. Thanks.
A_Robo_Commando said:
So... because diversity. Gotcha. I mean, if that's your preference, more power to ya. I didn't see the line about comradery on here. I agree with your position on that. Not that a reason is needed to have an all male party, but if you're going to have one, "comradery" is kinda lame. |
I am not an SWJ. My point is that when I experience a story I like a diverse cast of well-developed, human-like characters. The statement "we chose a male cast because of comradary (euphemism)" shows neither a diverse cast nor well develop characters in my opinion.
sc94597 said:
I am not an SWJ. My point is that when I experience a story I like a diverse cast of well-developed, human-like characters. The statement "we chose a male cast because of comradary (euphemism)" shows neither a diverse cast nor well develop characters in my opinion. |
I think we have to wait until we play the game to decide whether the characters are well developed or not. ;)
Sony, if you're reading this, do something new with The Legend of Dragoon. You will make me a happy man. Thanks.