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Chazore said:

Except the standards haven't stepped backwards in this case, you are stating to me that they have for this game, you think it;s acceptable to you and think it's objectively acceptable to all PC gamers, you imply that the stndards have gone backwards because if you didn't then it wouldn't fit with your line of logic.

backwards compat is a thing on PC and has been for years, you're talking about consoles and are bringing them into this with their standards, stop trying to mix the two as if they are one set of stands, we're talking about standards strictly on PC gaming here.

You had ill intent when you jumped in to talk about Jim sterling being objectively wrong instead of going with "Oh I thought it was an amazing game on PC" and elft it at that, instead we're here debating about standards and implying I;m an idiot to which you respond with "whoa buddy you derailing the thread" which tells me that you are setting up to report me because like it or not that's where you wanted it to ehad after I told you to finish calling me what you heavily implied and you know where that would land yourself so you decided to twist things around, that's actual ill intent right there, you wanted to imply I was an idiot for agreeing with Jim that "the game is shit because of a port that devs don't go to the lengths for it's optimizations is just utter stupidity".

See you know what transpired with the game towards it;s PC devlopement, you know exactly what lengths were gone to make the port and you know the end results, you have seen the wrath and the otucry that this game recieved and reviewers and sites documented a lot of that occurance, you think it's a great game but that does not stop it from being a shit one on PC and that was the end result and no such decent legnths were made to ensure it was going to be a good port, even after it was pulled from the shelves, what Jim said was actually right and a fact that is shared by a lot of PC gamers.

The reason we are even at this point is because you are chomping at the bit about one mans view on a very negative situation that transpired and decided to warp what's a standard and what isn't to suit your view on Jim's, at the end of the day it was a bad port on PC which effectively made it a shit game for PC players, that is where the end of the line is.

@Bold There you go again changing your goal posts ... 

Chill on your conspiracy theory ... 

@Underlined Once again, collective stupidity = stupidity. Being vocal =/= Right ... 

Jim Sterling is what I'd call a loud mouthed gaming ethicist who doesn't know how to shut the hell up!



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fatslob-:O said:

@Bold There you go again changing your goal posts ... 

Chill on your conspiracy theory ... 

@Underlined Once again, collective stupidity = stupidity. Being vocal =/= Right ... 

Jim Sterling is what I'd call a loud mouthed gaming ethicist who doesn't know how to shut the hell up!

No need to chill when I;m already chilled but there is also no need to act like you're in charge either. You moved the posts from the start, especially when we've been talking about AK on a fucking PC, you moved the set standards, tried to call them backwards and that they factcually change to suit your pov, that's you moving the posts in real time to something that hasn't changed a lot for decades, someone else even pointed that out to you and all you came with is "duh get more powerful HW", you don't understand how little sense that makes makes.

Still implying I'm an idiot, again just come out with it because I know you hate Jim and I share on his views.

Good for you on Jim's view, don't know why you even bothered to come into the thread to talk ill of him if you don't like him and I even titled the thread as such, why bother coming in here at all? (please don't make up crap excuses because we know you hate him and spreading your hate is what derailed this thread in the first place).

 





Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

Chazore said:

He pointed out that powerful HW doesn't solve the problem, in fact it doesn't always solve such problems at all, I've seen a few gamers on YT who do benchmarks with different sorts of high end that still don't get the stable frames on AK.

See Shadow of Mordor works fine on my 980 and other folks hardware that stems from 780-980 ti's, AK just runs like trash on most builds and still does.

So far this year on my 980 the games I've played ran fine with me in terms of AAA:

Witcher 3

Dying Light

Shadow of Mordor

Star Wars Battlefront

The difference here is that those games listed above were all well recieved good ports and none of them pulled a WB on their games, not even for SoM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjW__1HUmrI

Here's this guy getting above 60FPS on the benchmark in Arkham Knight with his Titan X ...



fatslob-:O said:
Bofferbrauer said:

Heavely depends on your actual hardware - and even then not in one sitting as the game is so twitchy it still crashes all the damn time

60FPS is a bonus on consoles, but had been the standard on PC since te 80's. There's a reason why there is a group calling themselves Framerate Police on Steam which notes every single game which doesn't have 60FPS as a possibility (independent on your hardware power, meaning a hard limit set by the publisher/developer) right out of the box.

But 60FPS ain't the real problem at this port, the problem being the massive framerate drops which happen all the time. And these go all the way down to less than 5FPS even on highest-end hardware, turning the game basically into a diashow and rendering it unplayable when these happen. The latest patches have made them a bit less severe (meaning down to <10FPS instead of <5), but at the same time max FPS of many cards have dropped at the same time, especially mid-range ones which didn't have many frames to begin with.

The devs even admitted the code is broken beyond repair, but still Activision (who must have known it!) pushed the game into sale despite all these problems. Like Jim says it's a special mention: The game itself doesn't warrant a place on the list (though it's easely the worst of the series), but the shady practices by Activision needed to be noted and "honored"

Well the very last thing you got wrong was Activision publishing Arkham Knight when it was Warner Bros ...

Last I checnked, large framerate dips are due to lower amount of video memory, not because of bugs ... 

Just get more powerful hardware to solve the problem ...

On an NVidia 980Ti with 6GiB RAM? Yeah, certainly not enough VRAM for Full HD

While a high amount of VRAM does lessen the problem with the absurd framedrops, it doesn't go away completly even with such an expensive card. Which just shows how broken the game is, as these are things which should be fixed in late Alpha phase. It really shows that the devs to which WB outsoured the port only had 8 weeks to do it and needed to cut corners everywhere to meet the deadline, leaving the game unfixable

And yeah, meant to write WB before but somehow wrote Activision, my bad on that one. Corrected it in my previous post.





Chazore said:

No need to chill when I;m already chilled but there is also no need to act like you're in charge either. You moved the posts from the start, especially when we've been talking about AK on a fucking PC, you moved the set standards, tried to call them backwards and that they factcually change to suit your pov, that's you moving the posts in real time to something that hasn't changed a lot for decades, someone else even pointed that out to you and all you came with is "duh get more powerful HW", you don't understand how little sense that makes makes.

Still implying I'm an idiot, again just come out with it because I know you hate Jim and I share on his views.

Good for you on Jim's view, don't know why you even bothered to come into the thread to talk ill of him if you don't like him and I even titled the thread as such, why bother coming in here at all? (please don't make up crap excuses because we know you hate him and spreading your hate is what derailed this thread in the first place).

@Bold I highly doubt that when your taking offense to every one of my posts in this thread, even when I state my intentions ...

@Underlined I came here to look at the top 10 and all I found was his idiocy, plain and simple ...



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fatslob-:O said:
 

@Bold I highly doubt that when your taking offense to every one of my posts in this thread, even when I state my intentions ...

@Underlined I came here to look at the top 10 and all I found was his idiocy, plain and simple ...

I'm not taking offense to every post, I'm making a point that you impleid I was an idiot for believing in something you think is wrong to and as such call people an idiot for it.

YOu knew it was Jim Sterling though, why not just watch the vid and go about your day instead of inciting negativity in my thread?, it;s known that you hate Jim in general and think of him as some idiot git so why bother even entering the thread when it had his name as the title?, again you are now making excuses as to why you came in to spread negativity and imply people are idiots for believing what you clearly do not.

You are wasting time by carrying on within a thread you clearly didn't want to be in due to one man's review that you clearly don't like. This is what happened with Valve as well and met with the same type of result.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

Chazore said:

I'm not taking offense to every post, I'm making a point that you impleid I was an idiot for believing in something you think is wrong to and as such call people an idiot for it.

YOu knew it was Jim Sterling though, why not just watch the vid and go about your day instead of inciting negativity in my thread?, it;s known that you hate Jim in general and think of him as some idiot git so why bother even entering the thread when it had his name as the title?, again you are now making excuses as to why you came in to spread negativity and imply people are idiots for believing what you clearly do not.

You are wasting time by carrying on within a thread you clearly didn't want to be in due to one man's review that you clearly don't like. This is what happened with Valve as well and met with the same type of result.

Hate him ? HAHAHA, how so when this is the internet ? I'm not his fan but "hate" is awfully a strong word to use ... 

Why can't I call Jim Sterling out ? 



fatslob-:O said:
 

Hate him ? HAHAHA, how so when this is the internet ? I'm not his fan but "hate" is awfully a strong word to use ... 

Why can't I call Jim Sterling out ? 

So we're twisting things around now to "less powerful" words to use?.

Why do you have to come in here if you didn't like what he said?. This wasn't a thread designed to call him out or one to bear negativity but yall somehow managed to achieve both.





Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

fatslob-:O said:
I stopped taking that video seriously when he started mentioning Batman: Arkham Knight ...

Coincidentally, I stopped taking you seriously after this post.

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fatslob-:O said:
Chazore said:

At this point the discussion is just going around in loops, and continuing it any further is just going to drag the thread completely off-topic. You've both made your opinions known, so i think now is a good cut-off point (in this thread at least).

Let's all have a nice *dodges rock* friendly discussion, without resorting to *ducks from knife attack* personal attacks.