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Forums - Sales Discussion - November 2015 NPD Thread! Hardware and software in OP!

Roronaa_chan said:
>1.1M south Americans imported a ps4 from the US
Not only that, but 0 south Americans imported a X1 from the US
True story

 


México is in north america, but yea... a lot of the consoles here are from the US... and the xbox is popular cuz is cheaper here 



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SvennoJ said:
BraLoD said:
ZhugeEX said:

Brazil and Mexico I believe. 

Bear in mind this is counting official sales in the country and not imports. 

Yes, it's very likely the XBO is the lead in official sales here in Brazil.

Not the most popular/owned console here, though.

The 360 was WAY stronger than the XBO is here.

Are there any estimates how big the import is? I imagine they get imported from the US. Could moving those sales to South American countries maybe put XBox One in the lead in the US?

 

I have no idea. It's really hard to track imports and I don't know of any company that does (apart from a Chinese company for Chinese market). 



ZhugeEX said:
SvennoJ said:
BraLoD said:
ZhugeEX said:

Brazil and Mexico I believe. 

Bear in mind this is counting official sales in the country and not imports. 

Yes, it's very likely the XBO is the lead in official sales here in Brazil.

Not the most popular/owned console here, though.

The 360 was WAY stronger than the XBO is here.

Are there any estimates how big the import is? I imagine they get imported from the US. Could moving those sales to South American countries maybe put XBox One in the lead in the US?

 

I have no idea. It's really hard to track imports and I don't know of any company that does (apart from a Chinese company for Chinese market). 

 


Do you have any info on how consoles sales in South America? That might give us an idea of how many imports.



ZhugeEX said:
SvennoJ said:
BraLoD said:

Yes, it's very likely the XBO is the lead in official sales here in Brazil.

Not the most popular/owned console here, though.

The 360 was WAY stronger than the XBO is here.

Are there any estimates how big the import is? I imagine they get imported from the US. Could moving those sales to South American countries maybe put XBox One in the lead in the US?

 

I have no idea. It's really hard to track imports and I don't know of any company that does (apart from a Chinese company for Chinese market). 

Sony and MS probably have a pretty good idea what their active user base is. Not hard to see which consoles get activated where, and the percentage of consoles that never get activated online.  It doesn't make a difference on a global scale, yet globally in the US :)

Anyway it's just the flip side of the coin when an article like this
http://gearnuke.com/xbox-one-sells-better-ps4-latin-america-2014/#
gets refuted by import sales. Gotto come from somewhere.



KazumaKiryu said:
PS4 in every country number 1 now. in all countrys in the world. XD

 

Globally in the World



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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ZhugeEX said:
KazumaKiryu said:
PS4 in every country number 1 now. in all countrys in the world. XD

Well.... not in South America. 



 

Well we have a very big grey market in Brazil and probably other countries in South America, so I wouldn't doubt official market being X1 because of lower prices but them total market being for PS4 because the imports balance out the price.

Offical price dropped from USD 1k (R$ 4k ) to U$ 550-600, and grey at the moment probably 450 ...............PS4
And from USD600 to 450-500 offical for X1 and no interest in grey because of low margins.

That would show why PS4 would sell less officialy but brand strenght, game sellection and worldwide presence would make it more on total.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

SvennoJ said:
BraLoD said:
ZhugeEX said:

Brazil and Mexico I believe. 

Bear in mind this is counting official sales in the country and not imports. 

Yes, it's very likely the XBO is the lead in official sales here in Brazil.

Not the most popular/owned console here, though.

The 360 was WAY stronger than the XBO is here.

Are there any estimates how big the import is? I imagine they get imported from the US. Could moving those sales to South American countries maybe put XBox One in the lead in the US?

to some extent yes





duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

SpokenTruth said:
DonFerrari said:

 

Globally in the World

Don't do that.  You'll conjure up an unexplicable debate about global vs the world.



No one will Drill at this time



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
SvennoJ said:
BraLoD said:
ZhugeEX said:

Brazil and Mexico I believe. 

Bear in mind this is counting official sales in the country and not imports. 

Yes, it's very likely the XBO is the lead in official sales here in Brazil.

Not the most popular/owned console here, though.

The 360 was WAY stronger than the XBO is here.

Are there any estimates how big the import is? I imagine they get imported from the US. Could moving those sales to South American countries maybe put XBox One in the lead in the US?

to some extent yes



 

In the same way that Xbox Ones are also exported outside the U.S. as well. 

That;s why it's not worth getting into the whole import thing when at the end of the day we have official sales for each territory, which is what matters. 



ZhugeEX said:
DonFerrari said:

to some extent yes

 

 

In the same way that Xbox Ones are also exported outside the U.S. as well. 

That;s why it's not worth getting into the whole import thing when at the end of the day we have official sales for each territory, which is what matters. 

I agree with you. But considering the ww reach of PS4 and bigger sales it probably have more exports... but if you consider markets not officially supported by MS then they probably receive some consoles as well. But as you said WW is what really matters and we have offical releases and trackers to have a thermometer... just that the 1.1M gap can be a lot smaller than we think (could explain SW sales being quite close even with the HW gap)



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."