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Forums - Sales Discussion - November 2015 NPD Thread! Hardware and software in OP!

Farsala said:
think-man said:
Im surprised X1 is still selling so good.

 

Install base of 110-120m+ in US last gen are not all going to buy PS4. Even subtracting Wii that leaves 65-75 of which PS4 wants 40m+.

I don't think there's an install base of 110-120m in the US.

You have a population of ~300m

Subtract young children (the parents would be the install base even if they bought say a WiiU or whatever for them for their Xth birthday)

Subtract prisoners and institutionalized individuals

Subtract homeless and severely mentally challenged

Subtract most of the ludicrously poor

Subtract the vast majority of people over age ~50

And that leaves a *potential* range of people that could be in the market for a video game console and/or dedicated handheld. But in my experience, it's actually fairly rare as the gen ages on for people that have any legimate interest in the hobby at all NOT to get a 2nd or even 3rd device over the course of a gen. This is particularly true in a household with multiple kids. Take last gen, say they started out grabbing a Wii in 2007, when their kids are in middle school. It's pretty likely that those kids got a PS3 and/or a 360 by 2010/2011 at the latest (provided their family could afford such, or they saved at a job).

Anyway, I'm not trying to be reductive or critical, but I just doubt that the numbers support 110-120M install base of 'exclusive' sales base. IOW, over the course of a gen the number of individuals and families that buy multiple devices grows a fair amount these days due to low costs over time, old units dying and needing to be replaced, or for a variety of other reasons ranging from the mundane to the extreme.



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ZhugeEX said:
KazumaKiryu said:
PS4 in every country number 1 now. in all countrys in the world. XD

Well.... not in South America. 



Which countries specifically? I live there and hardly know people with an xbox one



It looks like the uncharted collection can outsell Halo 5 in the US. WW it should definitely do it. who would have predicted that when the first Uncharted launched back in 2007 along with Halo 3.

"Greatness from small beginnings." - Nathan Drake



leyendax69 said:
ZhugeEX said:
KazumaKiryu said:
PS4 in every country number 1 now. in all countrys in the world. XD

Well.... not in South America. 



Which countries specifically? I live there and hardly know people with an xbox one

Brazil and Mexico I believe. 

Bear in mind this is counting official sales in the country and not imports. 





Someone surely said this already, but Kaz was right! Tomb Raider became Uncharted! :D



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Japan ps4 #1 now? :o

oh HC only right? ;-D



tbone51 said:
Japan ps4 #1 now? :o

oh HC only right? ;-D

Yes of course he means home console.  It's easily winning that in Japan 





BraLoD said:
ZhugeEX said:

Brazil and Mexico I believe. 

Bear in mind this is counting official sales in the country and not imports. 

Yes, it's very likely the XBO is the lead in official sales here in Brazil.

Not the most popular/owned console here, though.

The 360 was WAY stronger than the XBO is here.

Are there any estimates how big the import is? I imagine they get imported from the US. Could moving those sales to South American countries maybe put XBox One in the lead in the US?



>1.1M south Americans imported a ps4 from the US
Not only that, but 0 south Americans imported a X1 from the US
True story



OneKartVita said:
It looks like the uncharted collection can outsell Halo 5 in the US. WW it should definitely do it. who would have predicted that when the first Uncharted launched back in 2007 along with Halo 3.

"Greatness from small beginnings." - Nathan Drake

 


Well deserved.