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Is that enough footage?

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Wyrdness said:
Pavolink said:

"According to the last reported numbers provided by Nintendo, Wind Waker sold 3.07 million copies worldwide, far below the 7.6 million set by Ocarina of Time.[59] Aonuma would later comment in 2007 that he was "convinced the reason the Wind Waker did not perform well was because of its toon-shaded graphics style. It was something that you either loved or hated, and there was nothing that we could have done about it."[58] As a result of Wind Waker's poor sales, Aonuma decided that "the only thing we could do was to give the healthy North American market the Zelda that they wanted," which led to the creation of the more realistic The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess.[57]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_The_Wind_Waker#cite_note-NWR_13087-57

 

"Let me backtrack a little. As I was busy working on the connectivity project, it wasn’t as though the Wind Waker 2 project that I spoke of earlier came to a halt. Not at all. As some of you know, at E3 2004, we unveiled the game that would become Twilight Princess, the realistic Zelda game, and we announced that it was developed by the team that had been developing Wind Waker 2. Actually, there was a reason that that decision was made at the time. At one point, I had heard that even Wind Waker, which had reached the million mark in sales, had become sluggish in North America, where the market was much healthier than in Japan. I asked NOA why this was. What I was told was that the toon-shading technique was, in fact, giving the impression that this Zelda was for a younger audience and that, for this reason, it alienated the upper teen audience that had represented the typical Zelda player. Having heard that, I began to worry about whether Wind Waker 2, which used a similar presentation, was something that would actually sell. In addition, because we knew how difficult it would be to create an innovative way of playing using existing GameCube hardware, we knew what a challenge it would be to develop something that would do well in the Japanese market, where gamer drift was happening.

That’s when I decided that if we didn’t have an effective and immediate solution, the only thing we could do was to give the healthy North American market the Zelda that they wanted. So, at the end of 2003, I went to Miyamoto and said, “I want to make a realistic Zelda." Miyamoto was skeptical at first. I was so focused on changing the look of the game as being the solution we were looking for without coming up with a breakthrough game idea, and he advised me that “If you really want to make a realistic Zelda, you should start by doing what you couldn’t in the Ocarina of Time. Make it so that Link can attack enemies while riding on his horse using the Wind Waker engine, and make your decision based on how that feels." This is something that went against everything that the staff had been working on and I expected to come as quite a shock to the team. Surprisingly, my entire staff was enthusiastic about this change, and the project on which progress had slowed was given a much-needed jumpstart."

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/feature/13087/eiji-aonumas-gdc-2007-presentation-the-fate-of-wind-waker-2

 

Official words, unlike your baseless comments.



 

Try reading it yourself not anywhere does it say WW bombed, nowhere, you've posted an article that doesn't back what you claimed earlier about games flopping, 4.6m is not a bomb you're wrong so time for you to swallow the truth.

It flopped to what they expected, and here doesn't matter how you or I consider, but what do the developers expected. And there it clearly says they were not happy, thus Twilight Princess.





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Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

How big is the Zelda fanbase though, these days? Series sales have been in decline since Twilight Princess.

And Nintendo saying its the "ultimate Zelda" means nothing, it's just PR.

We had only one 3D Zelda after TP that is best selling Zelda, and sales of Zeldas for 3DS are pretty solid.

Well that world of Zelda U looks to me like world of "ultimate Zelda". And definitely not just a PR talk, I expecting that Zelda U will be of the best Zelda games and they said that they going back to Zelda roots with Zelda U.

Let's look at the series sales over the last decade:

TP: (Wii + GCN) 8.8 million

Phantom Hourglass: 5.1m

Spirit Tracks: 3.3m

Skyward Sword: 4m

Link Between Worlds: 2.7m

That is a franchise in decline.

 

And also, your personal opinion of whether it will be the best/biggest isn't really applicable to public perception.



curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

How big is the Zelda fanbase though, these days? Series sales have been in decline since Twilight Princess.

And Nintendo saying its the "ultimate Zelda" means nothing, it's just PR.

We had only one 3D Zelda after TP that is best selling Zelda, and sales of Zeldas for 3DS are pretty solid.

Well that world of Zelda U looks to me like world of "ultimate Zelda". And definitely not just a PR talk, I expecting that Zelda U will be of the best Zelda games and they said that they going back to Zelda roots with Zelda U.

Let's look at the series sales over the last decade:

TP: (Wii + GCN) 8.8 million

Phantom Hourglass: 5.1m

Spirit Tracks: 3.3m

Skyward Sword: 4m

Link Between Worlds: 2.7m

That is a franchise in decline.

 

And also, your personal opinion of whether it will be the best/biggest isn't really applicable to public perception.

You can't really compare current ALBW numbers with Spirit Tracks numbers because this generation still isn't over, I am pretty sure that ALBW will easily pass 3.5m LT.

Of Course it's my personal opinion that Zelda U will one of the biggest games of this gen and that Zelda franchise is definitely one of biggest franchise. If you really think I am wrong you can make Poll for both metals and see what majority people think on this site.



Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

Let's look at the series sales over the last decade:

TP: (Wii + GCN) 8.8 million

Phantom Hourglass: 5.1m

Spirit Tracks: 3.3m

Skyward Sword: 4m

Link Between Worlds: 2.7m

That is a franchise in decline.

And also, your personal opinion of whether it will be the best/biggest isn't really applicable to public perception.

You can't really compare current ALBW numbers with Spirit Tracks numbers because this generation still isn't over, I am pretty sure that ALBW will easily pass 3.5m LT.

Of Course it's my personal opinion that Zelda U will one of the biggest games of this gen and that Zelda franchise is definitely one of biggest franchise. If you really think I am wrong you can make Poll for both metals and see what majority people think on this site.

Even if that happens, we will still be looking at a franchise that's fallen from hitting nearly 9 million to struggling to reach 3-4 million.

A poll on this site would prove nothing except what this very small selection of gamers think. Sales will tell the real story.





curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:

You can't really compare current ALBW numbers with Spirit Tracks numbers because this generation still isn't over, I am pretty sure that ALBW will easily pass 3.5m LT.

Of Course it's my personal opinion that Zelda U will one of the biggest games of this gen and that Zelda franchise is definitely one of biggest franchise. If you really think I am wrong you can make Poll for both metals and see what majority people think on this site.

Even if that happens, we will still be looking at a franchise that's fallen from hitting nearly 9 million to struggling to reach 3-4 million.

A poll on this site would prove nothing except what this very small selection of gamers think. Sales will tell the real story.

So now you comparing sales of home console Zelda and handheld Zelda!? That doesnt make sense and you know it. I already wrote what I expecting from Zelda U, sales around 7m, so that means that will be one of the 3 best selling Zelda (definitely will sell better than SS), that and fact that ALBW will sell better than Spirit Tracks doesn't look to me like franchise is in decline.

Sales are telling real story!? Do you really think that Wii Fit, Wii Play, Wii Fit Plus, NSMB Wii.. are one of the biggest/best games of previous generation, because those games sold 3-4 better than The Last Of Us for instance!?



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Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:

You can't really compare current ALBW numbers with Spirit Tracks numbers because this generation still isn't over, I am pretty sure that ALBW will easily pass 3.5m LT.

Of Course it's my personal opinion that Zelda U will one of the biggest games of this gen and that Zelda franchise is definitely one of biggest franchise. If you really think I am wrong you can make Poll for both metals and see what majority people think on this site.

Even if that happens, we will still be looking at a franchise that's fallen from hitting nearly 9 million to struggling to reach 3-4 million.

A poll on this site would prove nothing except what this very small selection of gamers think. Sales will tell the real story.

So now you comparing sales of home console Zelda and handheld Zelda!? That doesnt make sense and you know it. I already wrote what I expecting from Zelda U, sales around 7m, so that means that will be one of the 3 best selling Zelda (definitely will sell better than SS), that and fact that ALBW will sell better than Spirit Tracks doesn't look to me like franchise is in decline.

Sales are telling real story!? Do you really think that Wii Fit, Wii Play, Wii Fit Plus, NSMB Wii.. are one of the biggest/best games of previous generation, because those games sold 3-4 better than The Last Of Us for instance!?

If you compare console to console and handheld to handheld, Zelda still diminished dramatically from Twilight Princess to Skyward Sword and from Phantom Hourglass to A Link Between Worlds.

And Wii Fit et al were absolutely among the biggest games last generation.



curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:

You can't really compare current ALBW numbers with Spirit Tracks numbers because this generation still isn't over, I am pretty sure that ALBW will easily pass 3.5m LT.

Of Course it's my personal opinion that Zelda U will one of the biggest games of this gen and that Zelda franchise is definitely one of biggest franchise. If you really think I am wrong you can make Poll for both metals and see what majority people think on this site.

Even if that happens, we will still be looking at a franchise that's fallen from hitting nearly 9 million to struggling to reach 3-4 million.

A poll on this site would prove nothing except what this very small selection of gamers think. Sales will tell the real story.

So now you comparing sales of home console Zelda and handheld Zelda!? That doesnt make sense and you know it. I already wrote what I expecting from Zelda U, sales around 7m, so that means that will be one of the 3 best selling Zelda (definitely will sell better than SS), that and fact that ALBW will sell better than Spirit Tracks doesn't look to me like franchise is in decline.

Sales are telling real story!? Do you really think that Wii Fit, Wii Play, Wii Fit Plus, NSMB Wii.. are one of the biggest/best games of previous generation, because those games sold 3-4 better than The Last Of Us for instance!?

If you compare console to console and handheld to handheld, Zelda still diminished dramatically from Twilight Princess to Skyward Sword and from Phantom Hourglass to A Link Between Worlds.

And Wii Fit et al were absolutely among the biggest games last generation.

TP is best selling Zelda game ever, Zelda U will definitely sell better than SS. Last Zelda game that was relased before ALBW was Spirit Tracks not Phantom Hourglass, and ALBW LT will definitely sell better than Spirit Tracks. So we will have two new Zelda games that will sell better that two previous ones, that isnt series in decline.

So you are saying that Wii Fit, Wii Play, Wii Fit Plus, NSMB Wii are much bigger games than The Last Of Us because they sold much better!?





Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

If you compare console to console and handheld to handheld, Zelda still diminished dramatically from Twilight Princess to Skyward Sword and from Phantom Hourglass to A Link Between Worlds.

And Wii Fit et al were absolutely among the biggest games last generation.

TP is best selling Zelda game ever, Zelda U will definitely sell better than SS. Last Zelda game that was relased before ALBW was Spirit Tracks not Phantom Hourglass, and ALBW LT will definitely sell better than Spirit Tracks. So we will have two new Zelda games that will sell better that two previous ones, that isnt series in decline.

So you are saying that Wii Fit, Wii Play, Wii Fit Plus, NSMB Wii are much bigger games than The Last Of Us because they sold much better!?

No is isn't, Ocarina of Time is. Both portable and handheld Zelda have dropped in sales hugely over the last decade.

And yes. Sales is the ultimate indicator of how "big" something is. Not the subjective, unquantifiable opinions of random people on the internet; actual real world success.



curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:

TP is best selling Zelda game ever, Zelda U will definitely sell better than SS. Last Zelda game that was relased before ALBW was Spirit Tracks not Phantom Hourglass, and ALBW LT will definitely sell better than Spirit Tracks. So we will have two new Zelda games that will sell better that two previous ones, that isnt series in decline.

So you are saying that Wii Fit, Wii Play, Wii Fit Plus, NSMB Wii are much bigger games than The Last Of Us because they sold much better!?

No is isn't, Ocarina of Time is. Both portable and handheld Zelda have dropped in sales hugely over the last decade.

And yes. Sales is the ultimate indicator of how "big" something is. Not the subjective, unquantifiable opinions of random people on the internet; actual real world success.

TP is first, but if you count OoT and OoT Remake, than its OoT. They dropped but now they are on rising again, so no series in decline like you wrote.

So you saying that Wii Fit, Wii Play, Wii Fit Plus, NSMB Wii are 3-4 times bigger games beacuse they sold 3-4 better than Last Of Us, game that won so many prizes and widely accepted as probably biggest/best game of previous gen!? Do you realise what you are writing!?



Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

No is isn't, Ocarina of Time is. Both portable and handheld Zelda have dropped in sales hugely over the last decade.

And yes. Sales is the ultimate indicator of how "big" something is. Not the subjective, unquantifiable opinions of random people on the internet; actual real world success.

TP is first, but if you count OoT and OoT Remake, than its OoT. They dropped but now they are on rising again, so no series in decline like you wrote.

So you saying that Wii Fit, Wii Play, Wii Fit Plus, NSMB Wii are 3-4 times bigger games beacuse they sold 3-4 better than Last Of Us, game that won so many prizes and widely accepted as probably biggest/best game of previous gen!? Do you realise what you are writing!?

If you count TP on multiple platforms (Wii + GCN) it is only fair to compare Ocarina on multiple platforms. (N64 + 3DS) Whether you're counting across a single platform or several, Ocarina is the highest selling Zelda.

ALBW will not outsell Skyward Sword, and even if it outsells Spirit Tracks, it will still be on a massive net decline from the days of TP and PH. A small short term rise does not negate a long term decline.

"Biggest" can incorporate many criteria, but sales is the most important. If not that many people even play, it cannot be one of the generation's biggest, no matter how much critics or fans love it.