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chapset on 10 November 2015

I am the only one here who never had any issues with bethesda games since morrowind lol?



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Frogger on 10 November 2015
Wright said:

Yeah, Bethesda Core Team is shit because instead of making us do the same side mission fifteen times they actually put effort and time into making every quest unique - with the ocassional heavy fetching -, with personality and entertaining difficult challenges.

Yeah, Bethesda Core Team is shit because they give us an expansive world full of interesting loot and locations - with the ocassional filler and drag - mixed with some interesting NPCs and enemies to be found.

Yeah, Bethesda Core Team is shit because they managed to translate a world as unique as Fallout to 3D without losing an ooze of its charm.

Yeah, Bethesda Core Team is shit because they try their best to make a game as memorable and timeless as they can.

 

Sorry if I can forgive a game being ugly because of everything I said.


Fallout 4 could defy the laws of gaming and Bethesda would still be shit in my eyes. There's absolutely no excuse for any version of any game ever to hit 0 fucking frames. That teams priorities are completely out of wack. Imagination and charm mean jack shit when your game is an unplayable mess.

I think their games are boring, but even I can swallow that it's just a matter of taste. I don't even think Fallout 4 is an ugly game. I think it looks fantastic and way better than the ugly as all hell Skyrim. But I knew from the second it was announced that it was going to be an unoptimized mess, because Bethesda is behind it, and Bethesda sucks a making games that actually work. It absolutely blows my mind that a game like Skyrim comes out and people actually defend modding the game to make it enjoyable. That has to be the most embarassing thing as a developer. You suck at your job so hard that the only way players enjoy your game is by fixing it for you.



Protendo on 10 November 2015
chapset said:
I am the only one here who never had any issues with bethesda games since morrowind lol?


Probably I had the game breaking skyrim bug that required an unofficial batch for me to continue.



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Abun on 10 November 2015

Looking at the game on stream it is atrocious how they still have that ugly,outdated and annoying HUD for the navigation and health bar.They really should have overhauled the entire UI/HUD for this game cause its an eye sore.LOL the game I'm watching can't even tell where he is suppose to go on that piece of crap.



Abun on 10 November 2015
SvennoJ said:

All this hate, yet when I read this I know it'll be fine

And yet I can't bring myself to slam the game too hard. For every minute spent cursing the inconvenience of some random glitch, there are 30 more where I'm completely, wilfully lost in the desolate ruins of Boston, dreading the moment when real life intrudes and pulls me back out. Maybe such creaky, chaotic rough edges are just the price that must be paid for game environments that are this detailed and alive.

You can always wait for the remaster or the fixed pc version if you can't live with glitches. I enjoyed the witcher 3 too despite occasional massive pop in, slowdown and a few broken quests. It's just the nature of these games. The witcher 3 has had 10 major patches so far, should be almost ready for consumption.

It seems to be an improvement over last gen. With Skyrim I had to turn off autosave and restart the game every 20 minutes after 60 hours. Was still fun. Fallout NV crashed about 7 times during my play through and had the world literally turn inside out a few times. Plus I had to go back to an old save from before a critical decision point as the path I had initially chosen was broken. Still was one of my fabrourite RPGs last gen. Compared to that Fallout 4 seems to run pretty well :)


That's the problem,it shold not be the nature.I guarantee Horizon won't have these problems and neither will Xenoblade.



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HoloDust on 10 November 2015
Nuvendil said:

It's the Bethesda RPG Curse.  They're success comes at the cost of never ending rage.  Every time - every effing time - a new BGS game release the crap storm on forums - especially their own forums - is insane.  Every Elder Scrolls game has been lambasted by rabid fans of the prior entry - many of whole come over to its side in time to lambasted the next one.  Morrowind man, Morrowind was GARBAGE, a casualized mess dumbed down to appeal to casual main streamers and it was a disgrace to even call it an Elder Scrolls game.  It ruined EVERYTHING the great Daggerfall accomplished.  Then, when Oblivion released, it was GARBAGE, a casualized mess dumbed down to appeal to casual main streamers and it was a disgrace to even call it an Elder Scrolls game.  It ruined EVERYTHING the great Morrowind accomplished.  And then when Skyrim released, it was GARBAGE, a casualized mess dumbed down to appeal to casual main streamers and it was a disgrace to even call it an Elder Scrolls game.  It ruined EVERYTHING the great Oblivion and Morrowind accomplished!  Eventually, you learn - as I did - that it's all white noise, a bunch of sound and furry signifying nothing.  Just ignore it is my advice.  It's toxic.

More on topic, I agree with the engine bit but not the team bit.  They have a lot of skilled devs but the old engine holds them back.  My only concern is a new engine could come at the cost of modding tools.

Haha, this is somewhat true, I remember the rage some Daggerfall fans fell into when Morrowind released.

I couldn't care less at the time, I played Dagerfall around early '97, actually never saw its 'greatness' next to Might & Magic, so given that latter was anything but dead with 3DO annualizing it, when Morrowind released, I played it more out of desperation of lack of open-world RPGs than anything...and actually liked it - nowhere near as Gothic a year before, which for me marked how open-world action RPGs should be made, but still, I had lot of fun with it.

But, IT was downhill after that...



HollyGamer on 10 November 2015

The question is, which has bigger team, budget, and experience on gaming Industry. Bathesda is like a senior in high school and CD Red Project is just a tiny junior on elementary school , if both are compared. I think even if The witcher 3 full of bug, it still mile better then Fallout 4 small bug.



WolfpackN64 on 10 November 2015

Err, to be honest. The Creation Engine games are never broken. Buggy? Yes, but never in states like AC: Unity or Arkham Knight. Never in a way that it impacts my enjoyment of these games.



Miyamotoo on 10 November 2015

I love Bethesda games, but I always expect that their games are broken on launch and that I need to wait at least 3 months (better 6 months) before I start playing.
Graphic in Fallout 4 certainly would be better but I really don't mind at all, I think it looks good enuf.



LudicrousSpeed on 10 November 2015
chapset said:
I am the only one here who never had any issues with bethesda games since morrowind lol?

Nope, I haven't had any issues either. I don't consider a couple freezes in Skyrim out of hundreds of hours of play time to be much of an issue.