The power of a PC has nothing to do with a game crashing. I can accept a game crashing on PC, since every PC is different and it makes it more difficult to develop. I don't accept games on consoles crashing down though, since devs know exactly what they are working with and how the console is going to react to what they are doing.

I know it's probably because I'm so old, that I'm used to games crashing on PCs, patches and all, while console games had to be perfect on release, cause there were no patches there. Good times to be a console gamer, pity Wii was the last true console ever.

All this hate, yet when I read this I know it'll be fine

And yet I can't bring myself to slam the game too hard. For every minute spent cursing the inconvenience of some random glitch, there are 30 more where I'm completely, wilfully lost in the desolate ruins of Boston, dreading the moment when real life intrudes and pulls me back out. Maybe such creaky, chaotic rough edges are just the price that must be paid for game environments that are this detailed and alive.

You can always wait for the remaster or the fixed pc version if you can't live with glitches. I enjoyed the witcher 3 too despite occasional massive pop in, slowdown and a few broken quests. It's just the nature of these games. The witcher 3 has had 10 major patches so far, should be almost ready for consumption.

It seems to be an improvement over last gen. With Skyrim I had to turn off autosave and restart the game every 20 minutes after 60 hours. Was still fun. Fallout NV crashed about 7 times during my play through and had the world literally turn inside out a few times. Plus I had to go back to an old save from before a critical decision point as the path I had initially chosen was broken. Still was one of my fabrourite RPGs last gen. Compared to that Fallout 4 seems to run pretty well :)

Consoles don't have a bigger fanbase than PC though....

I wish you'd stop saying rightfully so as if you are rgeater than any other usrbase.

I also liked how you said "have a good night lads", left the other thread, especially after the warning and jumped straight back into this one while going specifically for me out of anyone else in the thread lol.

I actually care where I spend my money just as much as you do, doesn't make me a lesser gamer or human being.

You gonna drag this out all night till someone else has to step in again?.

I don't really accept that kind of excuse as much with PC gaming because if we go with such an excuse than no game should work on PC's at all besides 1-3 builds and yet I've played plenty of games that have ran well on a myriad of different builds through the years. When a game crashes on a PC frequently we try to fix it ourselves and when it cnanot be sorted via our own tools/methods then the devs will of course get the full brunt of the blame.

I'm 28 and haven't had to deal with crashes as much, having to deal with them on a constant basis to find them an OK thing isn't really in my cards though, I mean if you're used to one thing then with time logically you'll get used to something else you once had issues with.

Ummm. What gameplay? It doesn't count when you often have to restart your console because the game crashed. Gameplay is often jerky and bug ridden. They gotten good at causing their damn games to freeze though.

Fallout 3, new vegas and skyrim still have bugs that crash the game and it some situations ruin a playthrough.

Doesn't the performance of a game ultimately dictate how good the gameplay is in it? Jerky combat......

Trump gets into lots of shit because of that way of life. haha.

No its because the polish currency is more undervalued to the US dollar. The budget is actually a pretty high one for them in their currency but lower in the US. Its about equal i would say

Exactley, i love silent hill 3 its one of the best games ever made but i refuse playing the crappy made HD remake on PS3/360, it freezes like every 2 hours. The experience was ruined for me and all i even wanted was to just platin it, nothing else. I defenatley prefer the PS2 version over it.

maybe not a the best example but you should get my point. Broken games are still broken games in the end

I have watched/read like 10 Fallout 4 reviews so far, it feels like the reviewers had the score done before playing the game. Every review comments how the game looks atrociously bad, has performance issues (a lot of them) isnt realy very inovative but give it a 9 anyway and the feeling you get is that the 9 is because its Fallout, I bet that if the game was the exact same but was called "Cataclism" or whatever it would be reviewing way worse.OK the game is fun but you have to review the whole package, if the game was a technical marvel thatw asnt too fun would anyone give it a 9? Why is the other way around OK, specialy after Betheda has been delivernig technicaly screwed up games for decades ?

Just need to invest more time on the testing phase of developement.