^ So much this

Whenever I feel dissappointed with the direction Nintendo takes with a game (Metroid soccer, amiibo festival, starfox visuals, xenoblade X downgrade, weak splatoon local multiplayer), people assume that I just hate Nintendo.

This isn't true! It's because I know Nintendo can do and has done better that I am critical over dumb decisions that hold their games back

It is like I am reading myself minus the 2D platformer part. I think that's false. Nintendo has just been lazy with their 2D mario games otherwise you probably wont' be saying that. 

Oh I agree. Smash 4 felt rushed and didn't feel as epic as Brawl did. Mario 3D world just seems lame compared to Galaxy 1 and 2. Zelda games are trying to be a cartoon nowadays. Metriod..... has no game this generation! I can't judge that.  However the Xenoblade game looks epic.

https://youtu.be/Xd-jThRvlYI

This is how an epic zelda game would sound

Edit: How in the world do I embed videos????? It is refusing to do it for me >:(

They never have been to begin with.

And Nintendo themselves are deep in development of what COULD at least have the potential to be the most "epic" 3D Zelda yet.

So I'd calm down a bit. It's coming.

Zelda is one game in one franchise though. The topic reaches beyond to starfox, metroid, fzero, animal crossing, and every other nintendo ip

Honestly, they're doing the same thing they've always been doing. I think Nintendo is vastly overrated; most notably in these forums.

They make good games. But long past are the days when they make the best games and the most innovative ones. I think people's expectations of Nintendo are way too much.

I know what you mean, and I miss this epic Nintendo too. I'm hoping they make come a back with NX. The only part of this gen I felt an epicness was with the whole Splatoon thing (new IP, creative, beautiful, etc.).

I just want a new [proper] Paper Mario godammit!

Personal taste aside, just because you prefer 3D gaming, does not mean that 2D gaming is in any way inferior, nor that it can't be "epic" for other people.

I personally was stoked beyond belief, when NSMB Wii was announced/unveiled, for many reasons. For one thing, it was the first game to bring the Koopa Kids back in almost 2 decades. It was ALSO the first 2D Mario (as in ACTUAL Mario game, not a Yoshi spin-off), to release on a home console in around the same time. The last ACTUAL home console 2D Mario before that had been Super Mario Bros. 4 (World) in 1991. Almost 20 years is  along ass time, and the old 2D Mario games still being my favorite in the franchise, that certainly made it "epic" to me. It also helped that the game was leaps and bounds an improvement over the first DS NMSB, and that the level designs were much more inventive, the power-ups much more interesting (Penguin Suit FTW), and the addition of 4-player was a really nice bonus.

For one of my best friends, who adored the DKC games on SNES, and we were BOTH severly disappointed in how far a departure from that DK64 was, he just about shit his pants when DKCR was announced.

And for me personally, while I DID love Mario Galaxy (the first one, not so much the second), and various other 3D games on Wii (including Metroid Prime 3/Trilogy), many of my own favorite games on Wii, were in fact 2D games, like both Kirby games, NSMB, Wario Land (which was awesome, with hand drawn graphics provided by an animation studio), Muramasa, Smash Bros. Brawl, etc.

For that matter, as far as Wii U goes, I think Yoshi's Wooly World, thus far, unless Zelda U really does live up to it's potential (which it might, who knows), is my favorite Wii U title hands down. Why? Because it's just a hell of a lot of fun. I've enjoyed playing it thus far more than any other game ON my Wii U, except maybe for Shovel Knight and Adventures of Pip, which, big surprise, are 2D games also.

As far as Metroid goes, the Prime Trilogy (though I didn't care so much for 2), WERE great games. But if I'm being honest, what would feel far more "epic" to me, personally, and what would really get ME excited, would be a new, honest to God FULLY 2D Metroid. Not for handheld. But for home console, in full HD, gorgeous hand-drawn sprites, make it every bit as good as Super Metroid, the works. If they finally revealed that Retro's next game is a Metroid Prime game, I wouldn't be mad. I might even be enthustic about it, depending on how it was. But it would not come anywhere close to my excitement if Nintendo ever actually botherd making another 2D Metroid. A "real" Metroid game, if you will.


So...I dunno. Different strokes for different folks. What might feel "epic" to some, might well just be "okay", or even "meh" to otehrs. Which is why entertainment, and hell, Life, is subjective.

Whenever I see threads like this filled with people that say stuff like Nintendo doesn't make epic games anymore I can't help but think those people simply don't look past Mario, Zelda and pokemon. Stuff like xenoblade, pikmin 3, the last story, Pandora's tower, splatoon, kid Icarus uprising, and fire emblem are all amazing but people seem to write them off because they're not Galaxy 3 or a gritty Zelda 

I don't know I still see them making great games. It's just we're in a time where they're trying to transition to being something different and so we might end up getting games like Amiibo Festival and Ultra Smash.

But looking at this generation in full I feel we got some great games.

On the 3DS we got a "3D Mario" title in 3D Land (and a 2D one as well), a nice top down Zelda game in ALBW, a new generation of Pokémon alongside the much wanted Gen 3 remakes, Fire Emblem was able to stage a comeback, Kid Icarus got a new entry in like 20 years, a new Mario Kart, a successful new Animal Crossing game, Smash Bros. for the first time on a handheld, a boatload of JRPGs, a 2D Kirby game (which seem to sell better than the experimental Kirby games), and so on.

On the Wii U I'm not going to lie it's more anemic but we did get a badass Mario Kart, a better version of Smash (in my opinion), a brand new IP that actually is successful in Splatoon, Pikmin 3, a new Donkey Kong game, as well as a new Yoshi game, 3D World, Nintendo actually pushing their Xenoblade series with XCX and so on.

So just because this fall isn't the best I don't think that's a reason to discredit them fully.