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AAA300 said:
fireburn95 said:


The 'dont like don't read' mentality is poisonous and very bad. I don't like the wars going on in the world but I still read about them so I can educate myself. I do expect content about it to be relevant and on topic. Same with games. There's absolutely no information out there about nx. We really cannot even be 100% sure it is a home console at this point. If predictions had logical arguments and points I'm more than happy to read them, but if based on a name you can somehow predict a bunch of shit, then better relegate that shit to one thread until more meaningful news comes out to allow actual meaningful discussion.

 

Never....NEVER...tell me to blind myself or censor myself to anything. I live free and not in a dictatorship.

No one is censoring you but you are censoring them by locking them away in one thread few will read. No one told you to you to blind yourself and your lieing if you say you watch/read/hear everything. Just like a TV show you don't like don't watch/read. 


'thread few will read' but if people want to they will sift through the info. There's clearly more people annoyed about 100 induvidual threads on baseless info than people complaining about sifting through 1 thread of all that baseless info.

I read and watch what I like, what I find entertaining. TV shows that I do not watch nor like still have base, still are something that exist. A discussion on baseless info is fine but naturally most of vgchartz doesn't want it cluttering their homepage when they could discuss 20 other things



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padib said:
fireburn95 said:
AAA300 said:

Then don't read them if you don't like discussing NX  and you'll be fine. There are many other thread's.


The 'dont like don't read' mentality is poisonous and very bad. I don't like the wars going on in the world but I still read about them so I can educate myself. I do expect content about it to be relevant and on topic. Same with games. There's absolutely no information out there about nx. We really cannot even be 100% sure it is a home console at this point. If predictions had logical arguments and points I'm more than happy to read them, but if based on a name you can somehow predict a bunch of shit, then better relegate that shit to one thread until more meaningful news comes out to allow actual meaningful discussion.

 

Never....NEVER...tell me to blind myself or censor myself to anything. I live free and not in a dictatorship.

He just asked you not to read them if you don't like them, he never asked you to blind yourself or censor yourself. You're blowing his post out of proportion. This isn't about thread titles you couldn't bear look at due to hateful words, so if there's a topic you don't like, asking you to skip it is not asking you to censor yourself but to make room for other types of interests.

We have much more information than a name for NX. We have a few investors briefings with much information that can help us understand the nature of NX. Given that you didn't know that, how could you judge the validity of those threads by saying that all we have is a name?

Last thing is that I get the impression you don't like threads about the NX, and so you don't like when people talk about it so much because it isn't interesting to you.

fireburn95 said:
zorg1000 said:
I love speculating about NX but we had like 100 threads about it in the span of a few months with many of them being dumb prediction threads based on nothing.


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'Dont like it - Don't read it' reads pretty censorship minded to me. I dont invest in topics because 'i like them or dont like them'. And I do enjoy about reading about NX, but as it stands NX is nothing more than a name. Nothing more. Yeah you'll get fake articles with 'specs leak' by those shit websites trying to clickbait on n4g and alike, but that is why people prefer it to be relegated to 1 thread rather than clutter up their screen. When two people post the same article within seconds of each other, the mods delete one. NX predictions or alike are the same topic, a prediction. So everyone has the right to share if they wish, but building a new thread on a topic discussed to death is just going to kill the lateral hemosphere on the top of our cerebral cortex's. Oh and investors have said NX, big woop, i've said NX a few times, where's my clickbait article.



AAA300 said:
fireburn95 said:


The 'dont like don't read' mentality is poisonous and very bad. I don't like the wars going on in the world but I still read about them so I can educate myself. I do expect content about it to be relevant and on topic. Same with games. There's absolutely no information out there about nx. We really cannot even be 100% sure it is a home console at this point. If predictions had logical arguments and points I'm more than happy to read them, but if based on a name you can somehow predict a bunch of shit, then better relegate that shit to one thread until more meaningful news comes out to allow actual meaningful discussion.

 

Never....NEVER...tell me to blind myself or censor myself to anything. I live free and not in a dictatorship.

No one is censoring you but you are censoring them by locking them away in one thread few will read. No one told you to you to blind yourself and your lieing if you say you watch/read/hear everything. Just like a TV show you don't like don't watch/read. 

No one will read? Seriously... When someone posts, the thread is marked new, moved to the top, and visible again. People will notice. But if you are so sure the thread is gonna be ignored. Guess what. That means the thread has failed. Move on. Making a new thread is illogical. You're basically acting like jehovah witness'. Then whining, no one wants to answer the door.



padib said:

You didn't reply to any of my points though.

He just asked you not to read them if you don't like them, he never asked you to blind yourself or censor yourself. You're blowing his post out of proportion. This isn't about thread titles you couldn't bear look at due to hateful words, so if there's a topic you don't like, asking you to skip it is not asking you to censor yourself but to make room for other types of interests.

'Dont like it - Don't read it' reads pretty censorship minded to me. I dont invest in topics because 'i like them or dont like them'

Extended: "Don't like this country, don't live in it" is what we say to people. But pointing out flaws in a country or system can improve that country or system for everyone who resides in that country is uses/is a part of that system. I took offence at that because suggesting anyone solely reads or views something for a matter of like-ness is ridiculous, and that suggestion to censor yourself to information you do not like breeds privilege.

We have much more information than a name for NX. We have a few investors briefings with much information that can help us understand the nature of NX. Given that you didn't know that, how could you judge the validity of those threads by saying that all we have is a name?

'as it stands NX is nothing more than a name. Nothing more. Yeah you'll get fake articles with 'specs leak' by those shit websites trying to clickbait on n4g and alike, but that is why people prefer it to be relegated to 1 thread rather than clutter up their screen....NX predictions or alike are the same topic, a prediction.'

Extended: Investor meetings where somebody has said the word nx usually in context of something else. We know NX will be a thing when it is released, likely a console, but that's about it. It's fine to predict, but if you want to predict based off information that is completely unsubstantiated, then let it sit in a thread along with others so those people can enjoy theres and each others. 

Last thing is that I get the impression you don't like threads about the NX, and so you don't like when people talk about it so much because it isn't interesting to you.

'And I do enjoy about reading about NX, but as it stands NX is nothing more than a name.'

I think I, and many others recently, are over fatigued with the over abundance of threads on the exact same topic - 'a baseless prediction of what NX will be'. If so many predictions are pushing more relevant stories or other opinions/posts/predictions down and the majority do not respond to them anymore, then the destabilisation of such topic should be...destabilised i guess. There weren't this many topics with the xbox durango leak. No one's stopping anyone making predictions here, vgc are just asking you to discuss one topic in one thread. Capiche



padib said:

The investors briefings give much more information than a name. We know it will be built on one common API for all of Nintendo's future devices, so games will be multiplat. That's already more than a name so I don't need to provide more examples.

As for the censorship thing, you argument is basically saying that, because a thread exists, you need to read it. Do you know how many threads are made in a day?  To pretend like you'er going to read all of them because you want to be informed is an argument that is impossible to take seriously. There will be threads you will not care about. Skip them and move on.


No, I merely say, do not restrict me, or suggest I should limit myself to something for an absurd reason as 'dont like it'. It's stupid and childish to suggest someone should avoid something that they dont like. Grow up and move on, mods made a good decision which doesn't restrict anyones abilities to predict about NX which means users who are tired of the countless threads or do not want to participate in them (yet) don't have to. I do not like, and do not think many people do like, to be told 'Dont like Halo, don't play it' Our ability to criticise or critique stuff is what makes things better, and I will not be told by someone with privilege mentality to censor myself.



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padib said:
fireburn95 said:


No, I merely say, do not restrict me, or suggest I should limit myself to something for an absurd reason as 'dont like it'. It's stupid and childish to suggest someone should avoid something that they dont like. Grow up and move on, mods made a good decision which doesn't restrict anyones abilities to predict about NX which means users who are tired of the countless threads or do not want to participate in them (yet) don't have to. I do not like, and do not think many people do like, to be told 'Dont like Halo, don't play it' Our ability to criticise or critique stuff is what makes things better, and I will not be told by someone with privilege mentality to censor myself.

Okay, bro. Let's cut the BS.

If I make a thread about who won the last Rugby game, and you don't like rubgy, would you be offended if I asked you to just ignore the thread and stop complaining as if you deserved the world to cater to your most exacting need?

You're not being reasonable at all.


Yes because you have absolutely no right to tell me what to read and what to ignore. No right at all.

I don't like rugby. But I don't have any quarrels about others discussing it. What little of it is discussed here on this gaming centric forum doesn't push important discussion topics down. If 10 of the hot topics were rugby-related, i'm sure many users will start getting pissed too.

OP is complaining about the inability to post new threads on NX predictions. Would he be offended if I told him to not come to vgchartz if he doesn't like their rules? I hope he would be, it wouldn't be my place to tell someone to pretty much 'f off'.

And on topic, it's not my fucking exacting need is it? It's a preference of the majority, or atleast a healthy portion of vgchartz that the overabundance of a topic is affecting their enjoyment of this site for differing reasons. Mine is that these topics have no substance, not enough to allow for hundreds of threads. Others may differ, but the end result is we would like to see less of them. It's fine to ignore one thread, but when it's usually 5 or 6 on the main page, you can't ignore it, it's pushing relevant content out.

No one is losing out here. Gather in one thread and share ideas. If that thread dies, then truth be told, no one really wants to discuss predictions, they just wanna say their prediction and run.



Don't worry. Once official info starts to roll we'll spam the complete VGChartz. I estimate 10NX threads per minute.
It's going to be legendary.



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zorg1000 said:
I love speculating about NX but we had like 100 threads about it in the span of a few months with many of them being dumb prediction threads based on nothing.

This. 

 

 

Also, wall of text. A relatively small one but a wall none the less. 



padib said:
fireburn95 said:


Yes because you have absolutely no right to tell me what to read and what to ignore. No right at all.

I don't like rugby. But I don't have any quarrels about others discussing it. What little of it is discussed here on this gaming centric forum doesn't push important discussion topics down. If 10 of the hot topics were rugby-related, i'm sure many users will start getting pissed too.

OP is complaining about the inability to post new threads on NX predictions. Would he be offended if I told him to not come to vgchartz if he doesn't like their rules? I hope he would be, it wouldn't be my place to tell someone to pretty much 'f off'.

And on topic, it's not my fucking exacting need is it? It's a preference of the majority, or atleast a healthy portion of vgchartz that the overabundance of a topic is affecting their enjoyment of this site for differing reasons. Mine is that these topics have no substance, not enough to allow for hundreds of threads. Others may differ, but the end result is we would like to see less of them. It's fine to ignore one thread, but when it's usually 5 or 6 on the main page, you can't ignore it, it's pushing relevant content out.

No one is losing out here. Gather in one thread and share ideas. If that thread dies, then truth be told, no one really wants to discuss predictions, they just wanna say their prediction and run.

I hope you can see how different this logic is to your original logic (I'm referring to the 3rd paragraph). And it makes much more sense.

But truth be told, I can't remember a time when there was more than max 2 NX threads in the hot topics at one given time. And I think you're exaggerating. And if you're exaggerating, I have the right to tell you to ignore one or two threads, as you yourself conceded is fair and reasonable (underlined, words being "it's fair", which it is). And if you tell me I have no right to demand that of you, then it's my right (and I would be right to say) that you're being unreasonable and unfair.

Hai capito?


Why have you got this idea that I am incapable of ignoring things? I can ignore a million threads, i'm just not going to be forced or told to.

And yes there have been plenty of times where i've seen at least 5 NX threads on the homepage. And 5 threads pretty much about the same thing mean 4 less threads get featured. 90% of the conversation on this site occurs from the threads on hot topics. Other threads barely get any attention if they dont bump on hot topics. 

If it was legitimate news like 'Miyamoto says nx will have a mario game at launch' and that same thread is used to predict which mario game it'll be, that's fine. It's news, and it's on topic, and the predictions are based of his statements. 

If i'm being unreasonable and unfair, then so are the majority of vgchartz users who agree. If the majority of vgchartz users are 'being unreasonable and unfair', maybe collectively, they're not being unreasonable and unfair because they all agree! I think the right to request you do not try to censor me to content is a natural right everyone on vgc deserves. You're free to call me unreasonable and unfair, but forums only survive while users who are on it are happy. Especially with vgchartz numbers updating monthly for the past few months, if theh forums are the only reason we come to this site now, it's best to keep the majority happy - not the minority who think catering to their own whims is high and mighty above others.

Once again, you're free to post your NX predictions... but for now, in a thread dedicated to that. I'm sure vgchartz members would be annoyed if I posted a review thread for every single soccer match that occured in the premier league. Probably better to stick it in one updating thread, or a new thread weekly.



Answer this, please. How does having one NX thread bad? You can talk about any NX subject, quest, or thing. Rumor, quotes, overblown articles, theories, official news, brain fart moments, you name it. How does one thread prohibit? You got an amazing idea, great. Type it in there. And the thread moves to the top of the Nintendo forum page. People reply or not, isn't determined by it being a new thread. Unless your sole goal is to make click bait titles. Which is the only reason I could see people complaining about the one thread rule.