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bowserthedog said:
JEMC said:
bowserthedog said:
JEMC said:
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Now, am I going to say that Nintendo will use those chips? Of course not! There were SoC more powerful than WiiU long before it launched and Nintendo didn't use them back then, so no one can say what Nintendo will do.

But if I had to bet, I'd bet on one of these chips rather than on a Zen+Artic Islands GPU.


I just don't think you can look the wiiu and say what Nintendo did at that time and then suggest this will guide what Nintendo does with NX.  There are a couple of things to keep in mind here.  The first is that what Nintendo did with the Wiiu didn't end up working. So for that reason alone you wouldn't look to the wiiu as guidance for nx predictions. #2 is that the new Nintendo President didn't agree with the Wiiu strategy and has since been promoted to being the president.

To your first point, I agree that this time Nintendo can (and maybe should) do thing differently, but they have never, ever, used new parts or components. Ever since the NES they have used tried and tested components (that also happened to be cheap enough). So yes, while Nintendo could use one of those SoC, it would be very, very surprising if they went with components so new that they could be the first to use.

And to your second point, Kimishima has only been president for a couple of months at most. Most of the design and planning for NX was long done before we became the president and could do anything to change it. And if he has really changed something, that will have delayed the launch of NX.

That's a good point about Kimishima and I understand these plans were in place already.  But I'm more saying that the fact they chose him after opposing the wiiu tells me that he would be the best choice to follow through on a new plan and a new way of doing things and some of the new direction of nx may very well have come from him to begin with.

Maybe his correct criticism about Wii U allowed him to give some hindsight of what happened and why, and that led to him having some influence in how NX was designed. That would, at the same time, put him as the best candidate to take over the steps of Iwata.

Or maybe his influence will only be restricted to the marketing teams and how they will show (and sell) the console(s).

Time will tell.



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x86 is good news if true.



This still is just conjecture, and even if it's true means little. Power alone is not going to magically make the next system do SUPER well. Wii was weak hardware, better than Xbox but less than 360, yet it ruled that gen. PS1 and PS2 were the weakest hardware of their gens yet they dominated by far. Power means far less than having the right games, and good advertising.

If we lived in some insane alternate reality where, for example, GTAV had been Wii U exclusive? You can bet your ass that Wii U would have sold a hell of a lot better just off of that one game alone. But Wii U, while it has many great games, doesn't have too many that are MUST haves for a lot of people, and the console's marketing was and remains garbage in NA.

I know I keep saying this, but its' a really pertinent point: "NX" or whatever the hell it's called, is not going to just magically excel, even IF it is tons more powerful than PS4. It needs games that people "MUST have", and it needs great marketing worldwide.

Besides, top of the line hardware will also make the console more expensive, and MOST gamers, in spite of the illusion which some hardcore gamers like to put out there, CAN NOT afford super expensive systems, let alone this myth that "most gamers own all three consoles these days". Yeah....no, they don't. It's not financially feasible for a majority of people whose budget doesn't almost exclusively go to gaming. Most people have too many bills, too many living expenses, kids/families, etc. And Nintendo has always tried to keep their consoles affordable.



foxtail said:

x86 is good news if true.


Not if they cripple it with the sideline 16x86x64 bus they are putting into it. They've already ordered the boards. In terms of their boards, the cards are already on the table.



DevilRising said:
This still is just conjecture, and even if it's true means little. Power alone is not going to magically make the next system do SUPER well. Wii was weak hardware, better than Xbox but less than 360, yet it ruled that gen. PS1 and PS2 were the weakest hardware of their gens yet they dominated by far. Power means far less than having the right games, and good advertising.

If we lived in some insane alternate reality where, for example, GTAV had been Wii U exclusive? You can bet your ass that Wii U would have sold a hell of a lot better just off of that one game alone. But Wii U, while it has many great games, doesn't have too many that are MUST haves for a lot of people, and the console's marketing was and remains garbage in NA.

I know I keep saying this, but its' a really pertinent point: "NX" or whatever the hell it's called, is not going to just magically excel, even IF it is tons more powerful than PS4. It needs games that people "MUST have", and it needs great marketing worldwide.

Besides, top of the line hardware will also make the console more expensive, and MOST gamers, in spite of the illusion which some hardcore gamers like to put out there, CAN NOT afford super expensive systems, let alone this myth that "most gamers own all three consoles these days". Yeah....no, they don't. It's not financially feasible for a majority of people whose budget doesn't almost exclusively go to gaming. Most people have too many bills, too many living expenses, kids/families, etc. And Nintendo has always tried to keep their consoles affordable.


I agree with most of this. Especially the sentiment that power is not what will sell the NX.

Though I do think it's important so reflect on how weak the Wii U's library has been, first party wise, compared to literally every every other Nintendo system, both handheld and console. Even against the 3DS, the 3DS has a much more "console-quality" line up of games than the Wii U has. Nintendo spent so much less money on first party software development for the Wii U than it needed to, and that just won't fly for a console in the west. DK:TF is cool, but a 3D DK would have sold more consoles. SM3DW was great, but a "traditional," non-isometric 3D Mario would have sold more consoles. Kirby CC was neat, but again, people but consoles for big, 3D games. Kid Icarus Uprising should have been a Wii U game. Star Fox Zero should have been an open world space exploration game. Those are the types of games people will buy consoles for, but Nintendo has been cripplingly cheap with their productions since inception, and it's starting to bite them in the ass now, because people have different standard for what makes a killer app.

That doesn't mean that Nintendo shouldn't be making the other smaller games too, but you look at the Wii U's library and it's absolutely no wonder its software hasn't sold its hardware. The two games on a system that's 3 years old with the highest production values are a kart racer and a party brawler. Meanwhile Killzone: Shadowfall, mediocre or not, was out on the PS4

Nintendo needs to quit it with skimping out on game budgets. Most people are worried about so many aspects of the NX, but I think the one real thing to worry about is their software.



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I still don't like WCCFTECH ...



fatslob-:O said:
I still don't like WCCFTECH ...


But they have been SPOT ON with their reports about the PCIx32 Express DIMMs included in the last two pre-fabs that have gone to market. How can you account for that?



VitroBahllee said:

But they have been SPOT ON with their reports about the PCIx32 Express DIMMs included in the last two pre-fabs that have gone to market. How can you account for that?

Show me ...



fatslob-:O said:
VitroBahllee said:

But they have been SPOT ON with their reports about the PCIx32 Express DIMMs included in the last two pre-fabs that have gone to market. How can you account for that?

Show me ...


Typical right-wingnut response. Why not holler 'BANGHYZI!' while you're at it.



VitroBahllee said:
fatslob-:O said:

Show me ...


Typical right-wingnut response. Why not holler 'BANGHYZI!' while you're at it.


His argument was bad, and yet you managed to outsuck him by bringing up a shitty ad hominem.

Good job.