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Which of the big 3 are gonna stop hardware manufacturing first?

Sony's Playstation 32 11.00%
 
Nintendo 54 18.56%
 
XBOX 205 70.45%
 
Total:291
TheWPCTraveler said:
RenCutypoison said:

Using which metrics exactly ? Financials is their best by far.

Sony home consoles are indeed the strongest brand since they started, but Nintendo might be more stubborn in case of console apocalypse as it's their only business with handelds.  Also Xbox would probably continue wheter it's profitable or not as long as consoles are still a thing.

My money is on Nintendo stopping home consoles first ad Microsoft stopping all consoles business first. I can see a gen with only a home console from sony ad an handeld from Nintendo and VGC forums betting on which will be the most unpopular.

I was thinking in terms of growth, in both revenue and profit. Unless I'm wrong, of course.

I was under the impression it was performing really well.


IIRC best revenue would be movies or music (Edit : actually mobile and games have the best revenue. My bad. Pictures revenue was pretty low in 2k14, still great profit. Music is the smallest division it seems. It's weird because they are the second biggest music publisher WW.). Profit is obviously financials (life insurance $$$$$), but devices division do extremely well in general too. PS is a vital part of Sony's operation as one of the centre of its cross-marketing operations (Sony is known for its excellent cross-marketing) but it's only one of it's many "good" divisions, even though a lot of these strived during the japan economic crisis.



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RenCutypoison said:
TheWPCTraveler said:
RenCutypoison said:

Using which metrics exactly ? Financials is their best by far.

Sony home consoles are indeed the strongest brand since they started, but Nintendo might be more stubborn in case of console apocalypse as it's their only business with handelds.  Also Xbox would probably continue wheter it's profitable or not as long as consoles are still a thing.

My money is on Nintendo stopping home consoles first ad Microsoft stopping all consoles business first. I can see a gen with only a home console from sony ad an handeld from Nintendo and VGC forums betting on which will be the most unpopular.

I was thinking in terms of growth, in both revenue and profit. Unless I'm wrong, of course.

I was under the impression it was performing really well.


IIRC best revenue would be movies or music (Edit : actually mobile and games have the best revenue. My bad. Pictures revenue was pretty low in 2k14, still great profit. Music is the smallest division it seems. It's weird because they are the second biggest music publisher WW.). Profit is obviously financials (life insurance $$$$$), but devices division do extremely well in general too. PS is a vital part of Sony's operation as one of the centre of its cross-marketing operations (Sony is known for its excellent cross-marketing) but it's only one of it's many "good" divisions, even though a lot of these strived during the japan economic crisis.

Yeah, maybe I should really be tracking multiple companies. It's really something to be force-fed hardware and software shipments, forms bad habits.

I assume devices are the Xperia lineup? Isn't that doing rather poorly in comparison with the rest of the market and underperforming relative to forecasts? They did mention something about slimming the lineup.

So, games are PS or at least work with them, right? If so, I'm partially right.



 
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I don't see any of them stopping terribly soon, but I'd vote Sony at the moment just because the company as a whole is in the worst financial state of the three because of losses in some of their other, non-gaming departments.



Nintendo won't stop, maybe they'll be less relevant to the west if NX fails, but Japan would still be there for them. so they won't stop creating consoles/handhelds. For Sony, they would surely bank more on their PS division compared to their other divisions which i would say not that popular compared to their heydays. (i.e. TV, Phones, etc).

For Microsoft, regardless what happened to their XBOX division, they can still cope with it.

All in all, NIntendo might have a risk that they won't prioritize their western audience if the consoles they've created won't be well received, but they won't stop creating consoles soon. same goes for MS and Sony.



I still believe the most likely scenario is MS selling XBox to Google, Amazon, or some other company with an interest in gaming. Nintendo will either go 3rd party or drown, but not without a long, protracted struggle. It's hard to imagine Sony giving up one of its main support pillars, especially when they're on top of the game so to speak.



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TheWPCTraveler said:
RenCutypoison said:


IIRC best revenue would be movies or music (Edit : actually mobile and games have the best revenue. My bad. Pictures revenue was pretty low in 2k14, still great profit. Music is the smallest division it seems. It's weird because they are the second biggest music publisher WW.). Profit is obviously financials (life insurance $$$$$), but devices division do extremely well in general too. PS is a vital part of Sony's operation as one of the centre of its cross-marketing operations (Sony is known for its excellent cross-marketing) but it's only one of it's many "good" divisions, even though a lot of these strived during the japan economic crisis.

Yeah, maybe I should really be tracking multiple companies. It's really something to be force-fed hardware and software shipments, forms bad habits.

I assume devices are the Xperia lineup? Isn't that doing rather poorly in comparison with the rest of the market and underperforming relative to forecasts? They did mention something about slimming the lineup.

So, games are PS or at least work with them, right? If so, I'm partially right.


Xperia is mobile (doing bad) and PS has strong revenue but really has been striving during ps3 gen (5 years straight loss IIRC).

Devices is parts and microchips (mostly batteries used in every possible phones from their "competitors", fun fact their imagery products are also found in ever other companies phones and tablets too) they sell to other companies. It's doing constantly well.



100%? Probably Sony, but I don't think that'll be for at least 20 years. Once enough people have smart TVs and don't need streaming box's for PS Now, they'll stop.

To be clear, I don't think any of them will ever stop being platform providers. I'm specifically referring to hardware here.



RenCutypoison said:
TheWPCTraveler said:
RenCutypoison said:


IIRC best revenue would be movies or music (Edit : actually mobile and games have the best revenue. My bad. Pictures revenue was pretty low in 2k14, still great profit. Music is the smallest division it seems. It's weird because they are the second biggest music publisher WW.). Profit is obviously financials (life insurance $$$$$), but devices division do extremely well in general too. PS is a vital part of Sony's operation as one of the centre of its cross-marketing operations (Sony is known for its excellent cross-marketing) but it's only one of it's many "good" divisions, even though a lot of these strived during the japan economic crisis.

Yeah, maybe I should really be tracking multiple companies. It's really something to be force-fed hardware and software shipments, forms bad habits.

I assume devices are the Xperia lineup? Isn't that doing rather poorly in comparison with the rest of the market and underperforming relative to forecasts? They did mention something about slimming the lineup.

So, games are PS or at least work with them, right? If so, I'm partially right.


Xperia is mobile (doing bad) and PS has strong revenue but really has been striving during ps3 gen (5 years straight loss IIRC).

Devices is parts and microchips (mostly batteries used in every possible phones from their "competitors", fun fact their imagery products are also found in ever other companies phones and tablets too) they sell to other companies. It's doing constantly well.

I completely forgot that Sony makes fantastic mobile image sensors. Blame Nokia Devices & Services for my confusion there (though I really shouldn't be confused; though isn't Samsung eating Sony's lunch when it comes to parts?)

And, you probably mean struggling, not striving.

And, yeah, I read mobile first, too, so I'm wondering how I got the two mixed up. It's going to be weird seeing Nintendo produce games for Sony hardware soon, though (Xperia phones), though as usual, there isn't any sign of Windows (Phone) support, so Microsoft is left high and dry.



 
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MS then Nintendo and lastly Sony.

I dont see it happending anytime soon tbh, if ever.

Could be a service sold along side a hardware solution (this is how it ll start imo).



The Playstation division is not the first income to Sony as a whole, but it is a pretty important source of money for them.

The Xbox division for Microsoft is like cheap change money in the grand scale, all things considered.

Nintendo is a videogame company, so every little penny counts.

IMO, the first to go would be the Xbox.