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Skullwaker on 29 September 2015

I use this feature quite a bit on my Wii U/3DS, so I hope they implement it before I pick up a PS4.



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d21lewis on 29 September 2015
Sixteenvolt420 said:
danielrdp said:
No, I don't really need to know how much I play every day. The only feature I want Sony to add is external HDD support. Come on, it's not asking much.


But the internal is so simple to switch out.


It's still intimidating. And what happens to the stuff I already have on the built in HDD?



Abun on 29 September 2015

It's not a needed feature.Some games do show your play time though through the save file.Most of the features people cry about not having are useless anyway.



Sixteenvolt420 on 30 September 2015
d21lewis said:
Sixteenvolt420 said:


But the internal is so simple to switch out.


It's still intimidating. And what happens to the stuff I already have on the built in HDD?

You transfer it over to the new one.



asqarkabab on 30 September 2015

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d21lewis on 30 September 2015
Sixteenvolt420 said:
d21lewis said:


It's still intimidating. And what happens to the stuff I already have on the built in HDD?

You transfer it over to the new one.


But how? Copy it to another HDD by connecting it to a PC? Portable HDD (which is the problem in the first place)? The cloud?

 

I'm sure it's a simple process but not easier than just plugging and playing.  Even the Ouya and Xbox 360 allow this.



Zkuq on 30 September 2015
sabvre42 said:
Zkuq said:

Assuming the system is reasonably programmed and there's a programmer that knows the system, it ought to take that programmer a couple of hours max to program the feature. And if it's not reasonably programmed... Well, there's bigger problems.

My point is that it should be so easy to do that there's two possible reasons why Sony hasn't done it yet:

  • It's not in their interests for some reason.
  • They haven't thought of the idea (in which case they suck at their jobs).

Its called prioritization. In a REAL programming environment it takes a lot more than rogue programming.

I know it takes. That's why I said a couple of hours instead of an hour. If it's a programmer less familiar with the system, it ought to take even longer. But overall, it shouldn't be a big job. And the feature also directly add value to their services, so it should be pretty high up on the priority list in my opinion.



sabvre42 on 30 September 2015
Zkuq said:
sabvre42 said:
Zkuq said:

Assuming the system is reasonably programmed and there's a programmer that knows the system, it ought to take that programmer a couple of hours max to program the feature. And if it's not reasonably programmed... Well, there's bigger problems.

My point is that it should be so easy to do that there's two possible reasons why Sony hasn't done it yet:

  • It's not in their interests for some reason.
  • They haven't thought of the idea (in which case they suck at their jobs).

Its called prioritization. In a REAL programming environment it takes a lot more than rogue programming.

I know it takes. That's why I said a couple of hours instead of an hour. If it's a programmer less familiar with the system, it ought to take even longer. But overall, it shouldn't be a big job. And the feature also directly add value to their services, so it should be pretty high up on the priority list in my opinion.

 

There is requirement gathering; requirements writing; design + design review; code writing; code review; quality assurance testing; uat testing; patch creation (a patch doesn't USUALLY overwrite the entire code.... just the modified DLLs).

On top of that you also have significant UX work in order to implement a user friendly system -- and ANYTHING UX requires insane design and test work.

Your "hours of work" is more than likely an entire 2-4 week sprint for a small dev team, and probably costs closer to $50,000 in development overhead before the database costs of storing all this data.

In terms of a DB schema (if they chose relational)

You'd need a table (billions of records) that stores Userid, game, begin date, time spent, etc
You'd need an additional table with every single game ever released (which would require SUBSTANTIAL work to build).
ETC

If you aren't a developer, you don't understand the amount of work that is required for what appears like a minor change.



WoodenPints on 30 September 2015

There is somewhat of a joy when you open up Steam and see you have played 1000+ hours in a game that it would be interesting to see in the long run on the PS4. I also enjoy seeing the stat on Xbox One especially when I got 100% in Sunset Overdrive then look at how much time I spent finding shoes and neon signs :D



Sixteenvolt420 on 30 September 2015
d21lewis said:
Sixteenvolt420 said:

You transfer it over to the new one.


But how? Copy it to another HDD by connecting it to a PC? Portable HDD (which is the problem in the first place)? The cloud?

 

I'm sure it's a simple process but not easier than just plugging and playing.  Even the Ouya and Xbox 360 allow this.

It's an extremely simple process. Transfer your stuff to the cloud, a thumbdrive, or whatever else you want, then over to the new HDD once it's installed. The whole process takes all of about 15-20 minutes, including the HDD removal and installation. No need to ever plug something into your PS4 ever again, other than to charge your controller.