Lately I've begun to notice a lot of gamers on forums talking as if games made in Japan are indie and or irrelevant. This is strange to me as many of gaming's best franchises were created in Japan. 

Silent hill, Mario, Zelda, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, Gran turismo, Devil May Cry, Monster Hunter, Mega man, Kingdom hearts, and many many more over the years.

I remember during the height of the ps3/360 gen YouTube and message boards everywhere were so happy to be getting quality Japanese games on 360. Jrpgs like blue Dragon, eternal sonata, lost oddessy, infinite undiscovery, Last remnant.

Fighting games virtua fighter, tekken 6, Doa 4, Dragon ball, naruto. 

Hell even Microsoft themselves were proud to be getting all the famous PlayStation Japanese franchises on their platform. Xbox fans were throwing it in PS fans faces and laughing how all of previously PS exclusive games were now also coming to 360.

They even made a 360 bundle and exclusive America tv ad for FF13. 

But now I've noticed (mostly Xbox fans it seems) are proclaiming Japanese games are niche, indie, irrelevant every time a Japan game gets listed. But last gen they were so glad and happy 360 was getting them. 

Funny how their opinion changes when their system is lagging behind in sales now and mostly all Japanese games are becoming PS exclusive again, save for a small number of titles that were announced before this gen started. 

Sorry for my rant but this is just getting ridiculous. A game is a game wether it's made in Europe, Japan, America or wherever. Just because your console of preference isn't getting great Japanese support doesn't make their games any less of a game made in Europe or America. 

I am not an XBox fan, but I think that Japanese games are mostly niche.
Sure, there are some high quality AAA games created in Japan that you list, but what we get now is mostly some anime rehash crap like ten Neptunia games a year, miserable PS3 ports like Godzilla or no-quality masturbation simulators like Onechanbara.

Double standards, however the Xbox fans are still right about Japanese games been a lot more niche than it used to be ...

Xbox Fans are the only fanbase that are hypocrites and hold double standards. Amrite?

Plus a lot of XBOX fans like Japanese games and it's always an ongoing discussion between them, and well... they are kinda niche. No way around that.

You've answered your own question. It's not coming to the Xbox One so it doesn't interest them.  Just an excuse they have to make up on why it doesn't interest them.

Tales of Vesperia was always brought up last gen, but now Tales of Zestieria is just a niche Japanese game.that no one cares about. It's definitely a niche series, but iit was often praised on forums and now that the game isn't on their system it doesn't matter.

Everyone knows why they're not interested and it's not because the games are niche indie games.

Just because it was "praised" doesn't mean they thought it wasn't niche...

I know, I just think it's kinda childish on their part. And I know some are indeed niche, but the bigger titles like street fighter, Resident Evil, ff, and kingdom hearts are still regarded as pretty big AAA titles. 

And regardless of how niche, there is still an audience out there that crave these games, myself included. It's what I grew up on since the 80's. 

It's also one of the reasons PS systems sell so well worldwide. There's literally a game for almost any country, culture, or whatever on a PS console. 

The PS4 has been getting real Japanese games, I think the PS3/360 era ruined Japanese gaming in the sense that there weren't many real Japanese games and by that I mean games similar too the ones from the PS2 era. PS3 mostly had the Neptunia games etc, the very otaku aimed games that most people didn't care for. And I know there are people here that enjoy those games but most don't. Most of the good Japanese games started too die out around the middle of the PS3/360 era.

I feel the same way, Japanese games seem to be making a comeback on the PS4. SE got their head out their ass.

I feel that a lot of last gen's problems were also because of their troubles coming to grips with the HD era transition and higher development costs. As well as the slower sales of ps3 compared to previous PS consoles, and the fact 360 was easier to develop for and had a higher install base in America. 

Plus I think Japan devs just feel more at home developing on a Nintendo/PlayStation console too.