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Would the industry be better off without used games?

Yes 27 20.61%
 
No 104 79.39%
 
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Puppyroach said:
invetedlotus123 said:

You know EU already have a ruling about this matter. They understand digital purchase as ownership, not licensing for use, so if you own the product you have the right to sell it. If it ever comes to fruition it will be due to law enforcement.

Well, my thought like I said, I own the copy, I have all the right to sell it. Imagine if Hyundai puts a lock in their car so it can't be resold, and if a person purchases it they have to pay a fee to Hyundai themselves so they can turn the car on. Or if I want buy a house that is already of someone and that were made by a construction company, I buy the house, but to get the keys to live in it I have to go to the original company that builted and pay 20,000 USD to have the keys. I think in media, mainly physical media, the same way.

This. I think that society as a whole will have to rethink how we view digital media as property. The interesting thing is that a Bluray is only just another storage device, but since we can physically hold it in our hands, we suddenly put a monetary value on its content. Has the monetary value actually changed because the digital content is on a disc and not on a harddrive?

The disc is not the value. The control over said media is. I have more control over what I do with a disc/cart, over years. VS tied to an account and inconveniance. With the reliability of the service, and hardware that has a higher rate of failure. It's my responsability to maintain it. And what I see fit. That is the control people want. And the second reason: Tangable.

I can argue this in another area. Why do people buy statues, like Amiibo. Why don't said companies make digital models and sell them on your phone/eshop/etc.? It's more convenient way, right? And you can interact with them the same way. If not, have more perks. Like have it able to animate, or talk. Yet, Amiibo's are here. The entire toy industry is still here. And not on your iPad.

Those password storing sites. Why do you feel weird or aprehensive using them? I'm not singling out the company. I'm singling out how people can break into sites, and steal information. Higher risk, than you just writing in on a paper. And or remembering it. Control for your own stuff is the key reason. Digital only (not digital optional) loses aspects of our control over our stuff. Or don't you get pissed when a show/movie is removed from netflix. When it's your fav show. And you're stuck in the middle of something, that you shouldn't be in. You just want to watch the show.



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spemanig said:


Over 125 million gaming consumers are digital only already. It already is cheaper, now. You get with it.


you do know people can have a steam acount and still buy physical games



The used game market is booming, with trade in places like CEX and Tradenation in the UK doing very well. They have great selections of new and retro games as well as consoles. For me as a gamer I cannot lose, I picked up a used copy of Zak and Wiki to play on my Wii U cheaper than a chicken sandwich I had earlier consumed :)



What's wrong with a secondary market for used games? Why do people make a big deal out of this when other industries have been doing this for years selling used or refurbished products. Ever heard of buying a used car for example? Doesn't seem to bother the auto manufacturers... in fact they're in on it too selling their own used cars for inflated prices and calling them fancy things like "certified pre-owned."

The one thing I don't understand about used games though is why some people insist on buying games used that just came out so they can save a whopping $5 off MSRP. All that money goes right into the pockets of GameStop.

And buying a 7th gen or newer console used is just stupid for a multitude of reasons.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

sethnintendo said:
Neodegenerate said:
It is a necessary evil. Ideally everyone would just buy new so the devs can get a piece of every sale and everything would run nice and smooth.

Usually the only way to get previous generation games at a decent price is used.  The still in box/wrapper games from previous generations prices are a joke.  I still try to buy new for the current and previous generation but trying to buy new for PS2/GC, N64/PS1 is not worth it.

As soon as some games that are a generation (or two) old stop being manufactured and sold at retailers regularly, sealed copies of the games start increasing in value.  Best time to buy "new" games for last gen consoles other than ones that have just been recently released of course is just as the current gen starts to hit its stride and you start seeing retailers drop inventory of previous gen consoles.  Prices are dirt cheap, and they're usually even cheaper in brick and mortar stores or online retailers like Amazon than their digital variants sold directly through Sony M$ and Nintendo's online services.

Of course there's always going to be games that had a limited number of units sold at retail that immediately go up in value like Xenoblade for the Wii.  If you didn't pick one up on its first and only run at GameStop, then you were screwed because it quickly started going for double its $50 MSRP online within months of release.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

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Why do people want this? So would you like to buy a car but you can never sell it? I understand games are much cheaper but I have more invested in games than some have in there cars. I get free games on psn, live etc. But they just don't have the same appeal as a physical game. I have a modded wii with 700 games but I still collect games. Why? I think it's a awesome hobby and part of gaming history. The days of all digital might be the day that I move on to other hobbies. Yall can have yalls steam and always having to upgrade to the next best gpu. I'll play with games from atari to ps4. :)



Without used games the industry will shrink. There are plenty of games I would not have bought new if I didn't have the option to sell them later when they don't turn out to be all that great. Plus I can buy more new games thanks to trade-ins of those non-keepers.

Now you can argue I could just wait for them to go on sale on Steam. Yet I've only seen my wishlist backlog grow over the years and never actually buy them when on sale. Too much new stuff to play all the time, and I've stopped hoarding Steam games before it got out of hand.

My Steam library sucks anyway, all my good games are physical. My Steam library is diluted with bundle deals and stuff that I never want to play again. My physical game collection is a wall of great memories.



It's cool to have the option, even though some multiplayer games require buying it new. Personally I try to buy everything new, since I'm selective with the stuff I spend my money on and I like to support the developers.



NightDragon83 said:
sethnintendo said:
Neodegenerate said:
It is a necessary evil. Ideally everyone would just buy new so the devs can get a piece of every sale and everything would run nice and smooth.

Usually the only way to get previous generation games at a decent price is used.  The still in box/wrapper games from previous generations prices are a joke.  I still try to buy new for the current and previous generation but trying to buy new for PS2/GC, N64/PS1 is not worth it.

As soon as some games that are a generation (or two) old stop being manufactured and sold at retailers regularly, sealed copies of the games start increasing in value.  Best time to buy "new" games for last gen consoles other than ones that have just been recently released of course is just as the current gen starts to hit its stride and you start seeing retailers drop inventory of previous gen consoles.  Prices are dirt cheap, and they're usually even cheaper in brick and mortar stores or online retailers like Amazon than their digital variants sold directly through Sony M$ and Nintendo's online services.

Of course there's always going to be games that had a limited number of units sold at retail that immediately go up in value like Xenoblade for the Wii.  If you didn't pick one up on its first and only run at GameStop, then you were screwed because it quickly started going for double its $50 MSRP online within months of release.

Yea, I usually wait about 6 months - 12 months for third party games (unless I really want it) because I know there will be a price drop eventually.  I picked up a lot of Wii games off Amazon after the Wii U released for pretty good deals (usually 7-15 dollars at most).  I'm even trying to help my friend out with some PS3 games.  Introduced him to Twisted Metal for $12 new.  Like you said the best time to buy new games at dirt cheap prices is buying the previous generation around the beginning to middle of a new generation.  I believe they did another release of Xenoblade so it squashed the price down to ~52 dollars new on Amazon right now.  Fire Emblem: Radient Dawn however never got another release and is sitting at 84 new and 64 used.  The good niche games that don't sell a lot but are still awesome/have a dedicated following usually go for the highest prices.