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PotentHerbs on 13 September 2015
Nintyfan90 said:
Scisca said:


Honestly man, the bottom line is Vita has a huge advantage on the Wii U. It's the Nintendo crowd that has to boost its morale, twist reality and keep moving goalposts in order not to admin that Wii U will be outsold by Vita. "More exclusives", "massive IPs", "Zelda U", "OMG Wii U is so awesom", "Vita haz no gaemz", "and the hundreds of games it gets are shit". Cool story, but Vita is still ahead and will remain there. There is nothing on the horizon that can change the fate of Wii U.

Wii U has been on its way to an early grave officially since E3 2015, while Vita is steadily on its "legacy platform" route, offering indies and awesome Japanese games without requiring any effort on Sony's side. Vita will last this way for years generating slow but steady income, while Wii U... Even Nintendo devs have been talking more about games for NX recently than new Wii U games. We could hear that "Metroid Prime could only come to the NX" and that "Super Mario Galaxy 3 could potentially come with the extra power of the NX". Add the Zelda delay and the writting is on the wall.


Another desperate post, keep em coming. No one here said any of that mess. When you spout nonsense like this, your credibility is shot. It doesn't alter reality either. Every year the WiiU gets closer, slowly ofcourse.

Right "NintyFan90".  



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sethnintendo on 13 September 2015
BlowoverKing said:
sethnintendo said:


Welp you might want to bow down since this is what VGC had the Wii U and Vita at as of April 25th, 2015.

PSV 39,179 (+2%) 11,722,655
WiiU 31,900 (+2%) 9,544,228

Besides Vita has already proven that it doesn't need jack shit from Sony to outsell the Wii U. 


Sorry I meant 2016.  I just want to clarify that Vita does have some good games (I don't know personally but I'm sure it does).  I was mainly talking about Sony's support when I used the word shit.  The Vita could be at 20-30m if they actually released some of the titles they released on the PSP and gotten Rockstar to do a GTA for it. 



midrange on 13 September 2015
Miyamotoo said:
midrange said:
Miyamotoo said:

Actually, Pokken, SMTxFE, Fatal Frame, Xenoblade and Zelda U are all AAA games, we still dont know size and content of Star Fox but I think because Nintendo give $60 price tag for game that is also AAA game, only game that isn't AAA is Project Treasure (also Mario Tenis and Amiibo Festival), also there are very good chances that Pikmin 4 is Wii U game, so another AAA game.

Fact that games like COD, Fallout, MGS...are more expensive and have much stronger marketing , doesn't mean that this Nintendo games are not AAA games.

There is no strict definition for what a AAA game is, but if we are willing to count games like fatal frame (not even retail in some places), then the vita has just as much.

I dont see why we can count Fatal Frame like AAA game? Its not small game in any means. Even if you think it not AAA, Fatal Frame like other Wii U games is still exclusive, Vita doesn't have exclusives.

Once again, small is relative. Fatal Frame is small and niche when brought up against huge blockbusters coming up like fallout and cod. To claim that fatal frame is AAA just like those other games (especially when the game is not retail at all places) is to award unnecessary points to Nintendo. Especially when you claim games like Digimon on the vita are small and insignificant.

Exclusives don't matter when making a comparison against the wii u. This is because there are so many games exclusively NOT on the wii u that brings down the value of an "exclusive to wii u" list. Examples: vita has Assassins creed, fifa, cod, minecraft, and borderlands. Adding these to the list of highly rated exclusives already on the system (gravity rush, tearaway, god eater) and the ps4 streaming capabilities, and the vita has larger options for games than the wii u.



Nintyfan90 on 13 September 2015
BlowoverKing said:
Nintyfan90 said:

The "official PSP/Vita shipments" is all I needed to read lol. Your sad shot at the WiiUs exclusive says alot about you. I guess thats what you have to do when your company has something to hide.

So you admit to turning a blind eye to this topic as a whole just because it's apparent the Wii U may not even sell more than the Vita? Sounds like it. Which is fine by me, saves me the time of trying to discuss something with someone who has no grasp on reality.

I didn't admit to anything but Sony's lack of shipments for Vita is sad lol. Why else would a company be so silent, they have no problem seperating PS3 and PS4. I haven't taken any childish shots at Vita despite some of the Sony faithful in here doing just that (at WiiU). I dont have to resort to that when currently the WiiU is looking to overtake it, thats what fans do to ease the truth.



MikeRox on 13 September 2015
Nintyfan90 said:
BlowoverKing said:
Nintyfan90 said:

The "official PSP/Vita shipments" is all I needed to read lol. Your sad shot at the WiiUs exclusive says alot about you. I guess thats what you have to do when your company has something to hide.

So you admit to turning a blind eye to this topic as a whole just because it's apparent the Wii U may not even sell more than the Vita? Sounds like it. Which is fine by me, saves me the time of trying to discuss something with someone who has no grasp on reality.

I didn't admit to anything but Sony's lack of shipments for Vita is sad lol. Why else would a company be so silent, they have no problem seperating PS3 and PS4. I haven't taken any childish shots at Vita despite some of the Sony faithful in here doing just that (at WiiU). I dont have to resort to that when currently the WiiU is looking to overtake it, thats what fans do to ease the truth.

While it's true the lack of Vita shipments is sad, it doesn't confirm that they are below what people think.



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Kresnik on 13 September 2015

Goodness, it's been a while since I've seen a topic about this excellent battle!

I remember back in the day all the praise Wii U used to get and all the flak Vita got.  Things like WiiU selling under 7m in 2013 was met with ridicule.  Then we had all sorts of "When will Wii U outsell Vita?" threads like this one and this one.  Check through for some humorous replies.  I sadly can't find my favourite thread (although I'm sure people will remember it) where the general consensus seemed to be that Wii U would sell 3 x more than Vita in 2013.

The threads even resurfaced last year in the race to 10m.

I have to give one thing to Nintendo fans - tenacity.  It seems at every turn they're adamant the next game is going to be the one to turn around Wii U's fortunes and bring an end to this battle of the cripples.  Sadly literally everything cited has let them down, and the gap just doesn't seem to be shrinking at all.

 

I'd weigh in with my own thoughts. but reading through all these old threads has made me realise that that's really not a good idea :p

My only real thoughts are that whichever wins, it's going to be an incredibly hollow victory.  The least worst selling 8th gen console, gee.

 

And here's a final thought for you: in 2013, this guy predicted that Vita would outsell Wii U in LTD sales.  At the very least, that has a chance of coming true.  But you wouldn't have thought it given the ripping he got for saying that.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 13 September 2015

It is possible, but if PSV kept a good lead despite very little support from Sony, while at the same time Ninty was supporting Wii U decently enough, should Sony better its support to PSV, with a long awaited price drop, maybe a new model, appealing bundles with larger memory cards and/or games, finally more big first party titles, better marketing, it will become very difficult for Wii U to fill the gap. And if Ninty will kill it too early, there won't be a chance at all.



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KingdomHeartsFan on 13 September 2015
Bofferbrauer said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

No lol.  Wii U isn't closing a 2.2m gap and the Vita will probably be supported longer than the Wii U.  

I wouldn't be so sure about that, considering that Sony already pretty much dropped support for the Vita in several countries

Lol Vita is still gonna be sold for years to come, what reason does Sony have to stop selling it since its an accessory to the PS4 and they are not coming out with another handheld obviously.  Wii U is gonna drop like a rock when Ninendo releases their next console next year or the year after.  Hell you don't even have to wait til the next console comes out, as soon as it gets ANNOUNCED with backwards compatability Wii U sales are gonna be affected.  



Nintyfan90 on 13 September 2015
MikeRox said:
Nintyfan90 said:
BlowoverKing said:
Nintyfan90 said:

The "official PSP/Vita shipments" is all I needed to read lol. Your sad shot at the WiiUs exclusive says alot about you. I guess thats what you have to do when your company has something to hide.

So you admit to turning a blind eye to this topic as a whole just because it's apparent the Wii U may not even sell more than the Vita? Sounds like it. Which is fine by me, saves me the time of trying to discuss something with someone who has no grasp on reality.

I didn't admit to anything but Sony's lack of shipments for Vita is sad lol. Why else would a company be so silent, they have no problem seperating PS3 and PS4. I haven't taken any childish shots at Vita despite some of the Sony faithful in here doing just that (at WiiU). I dont have to resort to that when currently the WiiU is looking to overtake it, thats what fans do to ease the truth.

While it's true the lack of Vita shipments is sad, it doesn't confirm that they are below what people think.

I agree, for more evidence of how desperate the Sony faithful are look no further than Kresnik post right below.

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Nintyfan90 on 13 September 2015
Kresnik said:

Goodness, it's been a while since I've seen a topic about this excellent battle!

I remember back in the day all the praise Wii U used to get and all the flak Vita got.  Things like WiiU selling under 7m in 2013 was met with ridicule.  Then we had all sorts of "When will Wii U outsell Vita?" threads like this one and this one.  Check through for some humorous replies.  I sadly can't find my favourite thread (although I'm sure people will remember it) where the general consensus seemed to be that Wii U would sell 3 x more than Vita in 2013.

The threads even resurfaced last year in the race to 10m.

I have to give one thing to Nintendo fans - tenacity.  It seems at every turn they're adamant the next game is going to be the one to turn around Wii U's fortunes and bring an end to this battle of the cripples.  Sadly literally everything cited has let them down, and the gap just doesn't seem to be shrinking at all.

 

I'd weigh in with my own thoughts. but reading through all these old threads has made me realise that that's really not a good idea :p

My only real thoughts are that whichever wins, it's going to be an incredibly hollow victory.  The least worst selling 8th gen console, gee.

 

And here's a final thought for you: in 2013, this guy predicted that Vita would outsell Wii U in LTD sales.  At the very least, that has a chance of coming true.  But you wouldn't have thought it given the ripping he got for saying that.

Take off the glasses my friend.

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