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DMeisterJ said:
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the PS3 version will sell more. [Just like DMC4]

i wouldn't compare gta to dmc4

dmc4 sold roughly the same in japan as in others and only 130k under US on the ps3...so it only beat 360 because of japan (beat 360 in japan by 210k, but is only 40k ahead ww on ps3 vs 360)

gta doesn't sell well in japan (300k for gta3 on ps2, another 500k for san andreas on ps2), so it doesn't get that boost

 

 



Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp
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Jandre002 said:
A price cut will help in someways, but hurt in others as people might see that as desperation from the 360.

so a price cut on 360 is desperation and will hurt...while a price cut on ps3 only helps because more people can afford it...gotcha

 



Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp
PooperScooper said:

VGC has the Japan numbers for GTA:SA, GTA3, and GTA:VC at 360k to 470k which would provide a nice little boost for the PS3 version. Though when your talking about 10 million it isn't that much. (still is a decent number) 


that's 360-470 for ps2, which had 123423423x the install base

 



Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp
El Duderino said:
CaptainPrefrences said:
i think gta iv can move some ps2 owners to upgrade to a ps3.

most played previous gta games on their ps2, and if there looking to buy gta iv, theyll prolly buy a ps3, a sony console.

I wouldn´t bet on it, the average consumer isn´t as loyal as you think, they see an ad that states "Only complete GTA4 experiance with huge content comming only for the 360" they might just say "Screw Sony I want the complete version." Customers are such hores, they see a cheaper 360 with more content so they might just go for that. Then again some will want to stay loyal to Sony for other games... so its hard to tell.


it isn't being a whore to buy the product that fits you best (price, quality, games, online, controls, graphics, etc)...companies aren't entitled to have customers be loyal

however, companies CAN increase switching costs to help keep customers from moving to competitors...one of the ways for ps3 to do that is to have full BC...however, Sony removed that, thus removing the switching costs and allowing customers to choose 100% on the other factors



Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp

in America it will be the 360 just b/c of the bigger user base....the rest will probably go to the ps3 b/c this s one of its big guns for the year



 

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I beleive 360 will sell more copies of GTA IV (otherwise it would be a serious, serious blow for the console)

I however believe PS3 will see better boost in consoles sold on the back of the title.

I just think the 360 install base, particularly in US, is big enough to absorb GTA IV without requing too many more consoles purchased (i.e. I think the game will have a high attach rate with current owners) whereas some will get PS3 for this plus GT5:P and MSG IV, etc. plus I think you have to assume some PS2 owners will go for PS3 on back of title.

However, I could of course be dead wrong...



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DogWeed said:
yea i saw that video, and he was stressing the content so much.

i do think it will sell more on the 360, devil may cry ps3 sold more than the 360 all thanks to japan. but i think gta is a different story.

in grand theft auto's case, if someone owns both consoles, it would be pointless to buy it for the ps3.

 Why?



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

Why are people discussing the cost of Xbox Live as if it were an important factor in a GTAIV debate? For all we know the online will be crap, but even if it's excellent it won't be what your average consumer buys the game and a console for.

MS would kick Sony's but with the online department anyway for those that ARE willing to pay the $50-60 or whatever it is in the USA.

DLC on the other hand won't cost that much (certainly not the ridiculous $50 I saw someone suggest) and it will actually enhance the gameplay that past fans of GTA are looking for!!



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Fastrabbit09 said:
Jandre002 said:
A price cut will help in someways, but hurt in others as people might see that as desperation from the 360.

so a price cut on 360 is desperation and will hurt...while a price cut on ps3 only helps because more people can afford it...gotcha

 


Value is important too. You cut a consoles price when you're already the cheapest on the market it makes people wonder. If you have the better console why would cut price when you're already cheaper? These consoles arent equal in peoples eyes, the 360 is the new comer. People know Sony as a games company, not Microsoft.

With RRoD not being  fixed and the price drop people would see it as being desperate. It mattered much  more at $599 and $499. $399 isn't as outrageous so more people will be looking for value in the system than before. 360 price cut will definitely help, but some people aren't only looking at pricing anymore.

A PS3 price cut puts it in line with customers comfortable spending range. The 360 is already within that range and is still losing by 50,000 a week. For the 360 its more of a demand issue, because people dont see value in the system.



Jandre002 said:
 

Value is important too. You cut a consoles price when you're already the cheapest on the market it makes people wonder. If you have the better console why would cut price when you're already cheaper? These consoles arent equal in peoples eyes, the 360 is the new comer. People know Sony as a games company, not Microsoft.

With RRoD not being fixed and the price drop people would see it as being desperate. It mattered much more at $599 and $499. $399 isn't as outrageous so more people will be looking for value in the system than before. 360 price cut will definitely help, but some people aren't only looking at pricing anymore.

A PS3 price cut puts it in line with customers comfortable spending range. The 360 is already within that range and is still losing by 50,000 a week. For the 360 its more of a demand issue, because people dont see value in the system.


Your talking about the USA on THIS planet right??

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