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Snoopy said:
OttoniBastos said:
This games are not remakes but remasters and Sony call it like that.

Remasters are improved ports,plain and simple.

-There are cheap remasters that only increase resolution and framerate.

-There are more well treated remasters that actually improve the original graphics/gameplay/content at some level.

A Remake is a totally new game that recall the same story.

A Reboot is new universe with the same main characters.

So are all PC games remasters? Like mgs5 ground zeros? Its been ported to PC with imporved visuals and framerate.



You can call like that if you want,but the idea of a "remaster" on PC is pointless since the ability to change resolution/framerate on PC is a basic feature.

On consoles on the other hand,resolution and framerate are usually set and you can't change.So the idea of a remaster is marketable.



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Protendo said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:
yes, if uncharted and GOW 3 pass as remasters, then all the games that are ported to PC qualify as remasters as well.


Don't forget all PS4 versions count as remasterred Xbox One games as well.


how? 



RubberWhistleHistle said:
Protendo said:


Don't forget all PS4 versions count as remasterred Xbox One games as well.


how? 


The same logic applies both ways.



RubberWhistleHistle said:
Protendo said:


Don't forget all PS4 versions count as remasterred Xbox One games as well.


how? 


Because of slight "rez bump" even though they look about the same and now most games are going to be 1080p on xbox one. But my point is these slight differences shouldn't determine a game as a "remaster".



Snoopy said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:


how? 


Because of slight "rez bump" even though they look about the same and now most games are going to be 1080p on xbox one. But my point is these slight differences shouldn't determine a game as a "remaster".


So you want the definition of "remaster" changed? Do you even know what you want it changed to? Why target the PS4 specifically?

Transparency says what?



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This is a pretty great thread, I mean...it's garbage...but it's great.



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Teeqoz said:
With the arguments you are using, you should remove the "PS4" part in the title, because it applies to every remaster out there.

Remastering refers to enhancing the quality of sound and/or picture of a video game. In a PC game, it isn't enhanced, it all has the same quality available, you just choose the settings to fit your rig.

But if you'd like, you can call late PC ports "remasters". You could also call them "demasters" if you have a crappy computer. Call them what you want.

Agreed, and i don't really understand why there's a debate about something we have a clear definition for. You can make arguments about what's a good or bad remaster, but not what the word itself entails. Was it released after the original, and is it inherently visually superior to the original (e.g. improved assets/frame-rate/resolution)? If the answer to both of those is yes then congratulations, you've made a remaster.

Something like the PC version of GTA5 can certainly be regarded as a remaster too, but since PC gaming lacks the static hardware of console gens, it's simultaneously a demaster. Regarding it as both would be a bit silly (and overly complex), so we tend to simply refer to it as "the PC version", which carries the "can be better, can be worse" tag. Just because we don't explicitly refer to something as [x], doesn't mean [y] can't imply something similar in the right context.



Zekkyou said:
Teeqoz said:
With the arguments you are using, you should remove the "PS4" part in the title, because it applies to every remaster out there.

Remastering refers to enhancing the quality of sound and/or picture of a video game. In a PC game, it isn't enhanced, it all has the same quality available, you just choose the settings to fit your rig.

But if you'd like, you can call late PC ports "remasters". You could also call them "demasters" if you have a crappy computer. Call them what you want.

Agreed, and i don't really understand why there's a debate about something we have a clear definition for. You can make arguments about what's a good or bad remaster, but not what the word itself entails. Was it released after the original, and is it inherently visually superior to the original (e.g. improved assets/frame-rate/resolution)? If the answer to both of those is yes then congratulations, you've made a remaster.

Something like the PC version of GTA5 can certainly be regarded as a remaster too, but since PC gaming lacks the static hardware of console gens, it's simultaneously a demaster. Regarding it as both would be a bit silly (and overly complex), so we tend to simply refer to it as "the PC version", which carries the "can be better, can be worse" tag. Just because we don't explicitly refer to something as [x], doesn't mean [y] can't imply something similar in the right context.


You agree yet the title remains?



yes, all pc version games that port from console should name as remastered, it just that they didn't name it, so should blame the developers, and don't put the blame on all remastered games that didn't rework the whole game like those microsofts games did, which they should name their games as remake and not remastered, so should blame microsofts for mixing up the difference of remastered and remake... this is the truth yet that guy end up only put the blame on sony remastered games just because microsofts is charging their remastered games which actually should name as remake at a lower price for competition... 



Hi all

Had a chat to some of the other mods about this. As Zekk has pointed out, this debate is one of semantics.

Given the way the OP is worded, its hard to feel this thread wasn't designed to bait those forum users who have enjoyed remasters on the PS4.

We'll give the OP the benefit of the doubt on the intent of the thread, but I am going to lock it, as little good can come of it.



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