Mr Puggsly said:
estebxx said:
Mr Puggsly said:
A million is a drop in the bucket compared to the other 21 million units PS4 has sold. This is why Sony basically just makes games for the west these days. Even their Japanese games are designed to appeal to us.
Hence, the PS4 is a massive success even without the indie, niche, Japanese games. So I repeat, "They arent the reasons PS4 is doing so well."
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i dont think its a stretch to say that by the end of the gen the PS4 will have 6 million or more consoles sold in japan (probably even more if great JRPGs keep coming to the system like FF7remake, Star Ocean 5, Persona 5, Dragon Quest Heroes 2 etc), if you think those numbers arent partly the reason why the PS4 is selling and will probably keep selling more than their competitors this gen then i have nothing to disscuss with you because your standars are completly off from mines, for you a million is nothing, for me its a big number especially since the competition is selling almost nothing in the same region... not to mention we dont know how many people outside of Japan are buying a PS4 for this type of games (like myself).
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1) I'm not saying the Japanese numbers are worth nothing, its just not that significant compared to the west.
2) Sony would gladly trade its Japanese market share for more western gamers. Especially since the Japanese console market seems to be shrinking.
3) Again, Sony doesn't even cater to its Japanese audience anymore. Especially with Vita's relatively quick death (i.e. legacy platform).
4) We also don't know how many people in Japan are buying PS4 to play western games. You know... those gaijin.
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1) you defenetly made it seem like they were worth nothing... and of course its not as big as in the west but they matter regardless.
2) if what you are trying to say is that they would trade their sales potential of a shrinking market to a market thats still strong then yeah every company would do that, however this is reality and you cant and shouldnt ignore the japanese market and they defenetly arent doing that
3) and you seem to forget that the three MEGATONS that sony dropped at E3 were all japanese games that are bound to move units in japan, most of them may not be first party like the last guardian but they are all efforts to try and revitalize the japanese console market, even square enix admitted that they hope they can revitalize the console market with the FFVII remake not to mention Sony already have tons of japanese games even some co-developed ones like Bloodborne. yes not all of them are first party in fact i think none of them are, but this is how its been since the PS1, they have a very little number of first party japanese exclusives per system, (the PS1 had LOD, the PS2 had SotC and ICO, the PS3 has none and the PS4 is getting the Last Guardian), at the end of the day the PS consoles offer a system were this games can be succesful.
4) of course theres people buying non japanse games in japan as well, im sure The Witcher 3 sold really well there and pushed some units, at the end of the day every game matters and having games of all kinds wether its japanese, western, AAA, B games, Indies they all appeal to different people arround the world and they all help to sell more units, they all count and they all MATTER in the end.
EDIT: point number 4 is my whole argument.
im not trying to prove if Sony does or doesnt support the console with enough first party japanese games, or if they would do better with more western sales than with japanese ones, NO, nothing of that is what im trying to say, all of what im trying to prove is that all games MATTER and you shouldnt dissmiss japanese games no matter how niche or popular they are becuase they do move systems in japan and out of japan and they DO APPEAL to people not only in japan but arround the world as well.