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ZenfoldorVGI said:
Euphoria14 said:

#1. How would they smoke all the pot? Now how would they convict anyone?

#2. No idea how it is for d21lewis, but here in Suffolk County, New York the police are drug tested often and also random. It is easy to know these things when your best friend's Father is a cop. :)

I also found they get annoyed when you use the term "They were out to get me."

 

iron_megalith said:
Euphoria14 said:
iron_megalith said:
Euphoria14 said:
^ you do know your getting very out of hand right now correct?

I'd be stupid not see it. about the Tobacco, marijuana statement. They're just the same one less lethal than the other wooopie...


I fixed my post, it was never aimed at you.


Actually I really felt off starting with the tobaco statement someone gave.

 

Well, I am just glad to see it worked out. Even if you are against my views, your still one hell of a guy to converse with. My opinion anyways.


You don't convict people for buying weed, you write them a ticket.

 

I smoked weed for about 6 straight years of my life, every day, maybe 8 to 12 times a day, joints, blunts, bongs, pipes, ect.

 

Never drank a drop.

 

Ended up with a BA in business, and I don't have any lung problems.

 

The lesson, marijuana is bad.

 

No, I'm just kidding, it's great.

 

Just don't get enthralled in the "drug world" and "party culture" the first time you try it and snort come heroine or something, that's when you've messed up(but lemme tell you, I've had some "experiments" lol, but I'm morally ambigious).

 

That party culture is what causes you to fail out of school, not the damn weed. To each his own, I guess.


 Well, they were talking aboutif a cop busts into a house and finds drugs everywhere and that they smoke all the evidence. Obviously referring to a drug bust. I am pretty sure they don't write tickets for drug busts. 

Although I agree with you, it is great. :)Until now I was on the smoke the bong or joint every day, although I have been for 1 1/2 years, the fact you did it for 6 straight further helps my argument that it is nowhere near as harmful as people think. It also shows it does not make you "unambitious". 

To be honest, sometimes as a frequent pot smoker I love reading the excuses while they still let people drink.



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@ Euphoria - It was a segment on Rick Mercer's Monday Report for CBC. A very successful prime time show. That bit actually caused a fair bit of controversy.

They kept the series going but it just wasn't quite the same. I think Margaret Atwood did "how to give a proper hip check" They lacked the joy of knowing that the celebrity actually did what they were providing tips on.



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Euphoria14 said:
Kasz216 said:
blaydcor said:

Kasz216 said:

It's quite damaging to the brain.

However if people want to damage their brain who the hell am I to argue?

I've had more then one friend who's screwed up their lives just do to pot. But like I said. Personal decision.


Want to find a source for that? Or could it just be bullshit propoganda.....hmmmm.

Odds are your friends lives were not screwed up because of pot. They screwed up their own lives, and pot was just part of the downward spiral. It doesn't force you to do anything or change who you are.

That being said, I don't think smoking all the time is good idea at all, but mainly because it's not healthy and makes you unambitious. It's not going to 'screw up your life' though; you do that yourself.


Well there is my degree in psychology which involved a couple classes about how both illegal and legal drugs effect the brain. So... how about any psychology text book on the effect perscription, nonperscription and illegal drugs have on the brain? Drugs aren't exactly foreign to psychologists as it's an entire field of study. A lot of groundbreakign psychologists use such drugs, and some teachers will actually almost suggest you try it. (though as to not go over the line and get fired or anything.)

They were fairly straightfoward falls for what it's worth. They started smoking pot. Then suddenly all they wanted to do was smoke pot, or smoke pot and do something else, to the point of where any night would be completly ruined unless they could get some pot.
Then they stopped wanting to do anything at all because they didn't have enough money for it and pot. Things like school they didn't even have patience for to do anything, and as such still sit around all the time and get high.

Once they hit the "Lets sit around and do nothing all day" phase that's when I was out. It's one of the same reasons i don't drink. I like to do stuff... or be entertained... or talk about things that are real and not bullshit. I don't mind talking about philosphy either, but pot doesn't really make you socraties all the sudden.

Edit: by the way, the non ambitious thing is what I mean about it damaging the brain. Do you know why you aren't ambitious if you smoke too much pot? Because it physically damages the brain


Nice generalization for all pot smokers you just did right there pal. You think you know what is going on in my head right now? You have no idea.

While I may not be a psychologist, I am a lowly warehouse worker. Smoking pot frequently and constantly pushing management to train me in all apsects of the job, not just in the warehouse, but in the offices next door as well as things like Quality assurance, etc...

Many things are done at my job and I strive to better myself at what I am doing at this point in my life while attending college to get my prerequisites done before I move onto something bigger with my life. I am only 23, I can't expect to be incredibly successful right now can I? I need to put away some money first so I can afford to go back to school full time. You have to work for it, but according to your logic, I will most likely end up nowhere and sit at home smoking my life away because I want to do it no matter where I am and no matter what I am doing.

My girlfriend's sister just finished her full time schooling at Stony Brook University, she is now 24 years old and 1 small step away from becoming a Registered Nurse, which is a growing field here in New York, plenty of money to be made. She smoked with me quite a few times. She also has a great 2 year old son and a husband who is close to finishing his schooling to be a physical therapist.

Yet in my case as well as their's... your logic fails.

As blaydcor said. We are responsible for our own actions. Quit shifting the blame elsewhere. If someone is a screw up in life, it is his/her fault and his/her's alone, nothing is handed to anyone. Even pot smokers achieve alot in life. Would probably blow a fuse if you ever found out some pot smokers achieve more in their lifetime than you do.

 

To be honest, I have hands on experience as to how a "psychologist" screwed up peoples lives. Perfect example is my brother. You don't want me to get into that. Yes he is responsible for what he now does, but unlike pot someone was actually telling him what he should and shouldn't do. Like talk back to my parents and hit my sister when she said something that offended him. Let us know he was still with me in Elementary school when he saw this "psychologist".

I guess I started getting into it anyways. I'm sorry but in my experiences psychologists think they know us better than we know ourselves. In my opinion... they should just mind their business and let us live our lives.

 

Sorry if this post comes out offensive, it is nothing against you personally, but I have just had a VERY bad history with psychologists.

 


What generalization? Marijuana damages the part of the brain that has to do with ambition. It's a fact. Just how cigarettes damage the lungs yet someone can go their entire life smoking cigarettes and never get cancer... and yeah bad psychologists can screw people up. Just how bad doctors kill people. Psychology is really a best guess job as far as clinical works.

Still unlike Psychology as an art to heal peoples mental problems, psychology as it deals with the physical effects drugs have on your body is based on research and hard facts.  It's a fact... things like this actually do effect your brain.  There is no "shifting" of blame, since they were the ones who smoked pot in the first place.  It was their decision. 

You gotta give people the right to screw up their lives though. 



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Kasz216 said:
Euphoria14 said:
Kasz216 said:
blaydcor said:

Kasz216 said:

It's quite damaging to the brain.

However if people want to damage their brain who the hell am I to argue?

I've had more then one friend who's screwed up their lives just do to pot. But like I said. Personal decision.


Want to find a source for that? Or could it just be bullshit propoganda.....hmmmm.

Odds are your friends lives were not screwed up because of pot. They screwed up their own lives, and pot was just part of the downward spiral. It doesn't force you to do anything or change who you are.

That being said, I don't think smoking all the time is good idea at all, but mainly because it's not healthy and makes you unambitious. It's not going to 'screw up your life' though; you do that yourself.


Well there is my degree in psychology which involved a couple classes about how both illegal and legal drugs effect the brain. So... how about any psychology text book on the effect perscription, nonperscription and illegal drugs have on the brain? Drugs aren't exactly foreign to psychologists as it's an entire field of study. A lot of groundbreakign psychologists use such drugs, and some teachers will actually almost suggest you try it. (though as to not go over the line and get fired or anything.)

They were fairly straightfoward falls for what it's worth. They started smoking pot. Then suddenly all they wanted to do was smoke pot, or smoke pot and do something else, to the point of where any night would be completly ruined unless they could get some pot.
Then they stopped wanting to do anything at all because they didn't have enough money for it and pot. Things like school they didn't even have patience for to do anything, and as such still sit around all the time and get high.

Once they hit the "Lets sit around and do nothing all day" phase that's when I was out. It's one of the same reasons i don't drink. I like to do stuff... or be entertained... or talk about things that are real and not bullshit. I don't mind talking about philosphy either, but pot doesn't really make you socraties all the sudden.

Edit: by the way, the non ambitious thing is what I mean about it damaging the brain. Do you know why you aren't ambitious if you smoke too much pot? Because it physically damages the brain


Nice generalization for all pot smokers you just did right there pal. You think you know what is going on in my head right now? You have no idea.

While I may not be a psychologist, I am a lowly warehouse worker. Smoking pot frequently and constantly pushing management to train me in all apsects of the job, not just in the warehouse, but in the offices next door as well as things like Quality assurance, etc...

Many things are done at my job and I strive to better myself at what I am doing at this point in my life while attending college to get my prerequisites done before I move onto something bigger with my life. I am only 23, I can't expect to be incredibly successful right now can I? I need to put away some money first so I can afford to go back to school full time. You have to work for it, but according to your logic, I will most likely end up nowhere and sit at home smoking my life away because I want to do it no matter where I am and no matter what I am doing.

My girlfriend's sister just finished her full time schooling at Stony Brook University, she is now 24 years old and 1 small step away from becoming a Registered Nurse, which is a growing field here in New York, plenty of money to be made. She smoked with me quite a few times. She also has a great 2 year old son and a husband who is close to finishing his schooling to be a physical therapist.

Yet in my case as well as their's... your logic fails.

As blaydcor said. We are responsible for our own actions. Quit shifting the blame elsewhere. If someone is a screw up in life, it is his/her fault and his/her's alone, nothing is handed to anyone. Even pot smokers achieve alot in life. Would probably blow a fuse if you ever found out some pot smokers achieve more in their lifetime than you do.

 

To be honest, I have hands on experience as to how a "psychologist" screwed up peoples lives. Perfect example is my brother. You don't want me to get into that. Yes he is responsible for what he now does, but unlike pot someone was actually telling him what he should and shouldn't do. Like talk back to my parents and hit my sister when she said something that offended him. Let us know he was still with me in Elementary school when he saw this "psychologist".

I guess I started getting into it anyways. I'm sorry but in my experiences psychologists think they know us better than we know ourselves. In my opinion... they should just mind their business and let us live our lives.

 

Sorry if this post comes out offensive, it is nothing against you personally, but I have just had a VERY bad history with psychologists.

 


What generalization? Marijuana damages the part of the brain that has to do with ambition. It's a fact. Just how cigarettes damage the lungs yet someone can go their entire life smoking cigarettes and never get cancer... and yeah bad psychologists can screw people up.  Just how bad doctors kill people.  Psychology is really a best guess job as far as clinical works.  

Still unlike Psychology as an art to heal peoples mental problems, psychology as it deals with the physical effects drugs have on your body is based on research and hard facts.


 My girlfriend is currently taking psychology, we debate all the time.

I personally don't mind if it does indeed harm the brain. Although is this due to inhalation? Does it also imply for those who ingest it?

If it does, then so be it. My only argument is that I feel people should be given the choice. If alcohol is legal, then there is no reason as to why marijuana is not.



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@ Euphoria - It was a segment on Rick Mercer's Monday Report for CBC. A very successful prime time show. That bit actually caused a fair bit of controversy.

They kept the series going but it just wasn't quite the same. I think Margaret Atwood did "how to give a proper hip check" They lacked the joy of knowing that the celebrity actually did what they were providing tips on.

 Still damn funny though. :)

Good watch for my girlfriend when she comes home from school.

Thanks for bringing some much needed humor to this thread. 



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Kasz216 said:

What generalization? Marijuana damages the part of the brain that has to do with ambition. It's a fact. Just how cigarettes damage the lungs yet someone can go their entire life smoking cigarettes and never get cancer... and yeah bad psychologists can screw people up. Just how bad doctors kill people. Psychology is really a best guess job as far as clinical works.

Still unlike Psychology as an art to heal peoples mental problems, psychology as it deals with the physical effects drugs have on your body is based on research and hard facts.  It's a fact... things like this actually do effect your brain.  There is no "shifting" of blame, since they were the ones who smoked pot in the first place.  It was their decision. 

You gotta give people the right to screw up their lives though. 


I agree with what you say but why do you have such a disdain of clinical psychology? A lot of good has come from there givin a lot of bad has too, but it's constantly improving.



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Note: Marijuana is NOTHING like this.
 

Here is a pretty amazing video of a guy smoking salvia:

And another that gets real funny at about 1:00:


We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

^ If I took a video of me stoned, the only difference would be that I sometimes get a little forgetful. Other than that... nothing really besides me being happy and hungry.

That kid clearly looks as though he has no idea of what is going on around him. Those are drugs I would not touch.



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Kasz216 said:
 

What generalization? Marijuana damages the part of the brain that has to do with ambition. It's a fact. Just how cigarettes damage the lungs yet someone can go their entire life smoking cigarettes and never get cancer... and yeah bad psychologists can screw people up. Just how bad doctors kill people. Psychology is really a best guess job as far as clinical works.

Still unlike Psychology as an art to heal peoples mental problems, psychology as it deals with the physical effects drugs have on your body is based on research and hard facts.  It's a fact... things like this actually do effect your brain.  There is no "shifting" of blame, since they were the ones who smoked pot in the first place.  It was their decision. 

You gotta give people the right to screw up their lives though. 


 I just do not understand the last part of your post. Is that was aimed towards people in general or marijuana?

Just curious because if it is in reference to Marijuana, you are indeed making a generalization.

 

Alrighty, enough of this today. Maybe after sitting here all day posting about pot I can actually get off this damn laptop.

The internet, now there is a real addiction.



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