They weren't sub HD.

I meant unfortunate in the sense that obviously 60fps is better than 30fps, everything else being equal.

Well if their reveal trailer was real-time graphics at 30fps it would already be almost impossible... so 60fps was a really wet dream.

no they werent. all 3 were native 720p

any way, on topic.

i always expected uncharted 4 to go the way of last of us remastered (or killzone and infamous) with the campaign giving you the option of locked 30fps, with slightly better graphics, or variable 60fps with slightly diminished graphics, and with multiplayer be locked 60 frames.

and i still expect them to do this.

The MP maps of Uncharted 3 were still quite big though.

You didn't play the beta for Halo 5?

Yep we haven't seem much of Gears to be sure, but seems like a great game. I really liked the idea of 4 people campaign co-op, so not sure what people didn't like about Halo (it isn't in the same graphical prowess of UC4, but again it's 60fps and a different concept) or why saying it didn't looked pretty.

Recore was a joy and sea of thieves may end up good (even if graphics are really simply, knack was also), like the artistic direction of fable as well (simple graphics but nice aesthetic for me).

Yes, but no where near the scope of that Jeep trek through that city. xD

Halo 5's MP isn't particularly good looking. Graphics look flat... But in single player campaign, it looks really good!

60fps would have been a nice bonus, but the game seemed really fluid already, although there was tons of destrutible stuff in highly detailed and from what I could tell, surprisingly open scenes - that's absolutely ok in my book

Just saw the MP co-op... haven't looked at it yet. Well don't think Halo players will care much so why bash about a thing the person wouldn't care?

30 FPS is awful, but accept it as it is a console that prioritizes graphics.