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WoodenPints said:
Personally I don't think anything would change between the PS4 and X1 in Europe, Even if you swapped the game catalog's of each console around mainland Europe would still be a PS4 area.

Well, all I can do is to say how it's in Germany and in my opinion MS could be much more successful here if they would simply do what Sony does with advertisement and the likes. If MS always acts as if USA and UK are the only markets which count for them then it's no surprise that they aren't successful anywhere else. 

As Xbox owner you always have the feeling that MS doesn't care about your market here in Germany, as PS owner you get the feeling that nothing is more important for Sony as your market (and I think it's the same in many other countries). 

Sure, PS would be still more successful here but they simply gave everything away as if they don't care and even if they would start to try more here they won't succeed much because there are already so many who own a PS4 that other people will also buy one simply because they know that that's how they can play with friends who already own one. 

I mean, MS has the FIFA marketing deal but what does this help them when people think "to play FIFA with my friends I need a PS4"? It's the only deal they tried at least a little bit here but it's totally useless. 

When I see more TV ads for a game like Diablo 3 for PS4 ( a last gen port) as I see for Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, The MCC, Ryse and some more together I really don't know what's wrong with MS.



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hmm got another large update on xone...Any news?



GamechaserBE said:
hmm got another large update on xone...Any news?

276mb, not sure msyelf just updating as I type this. I'm guessing it could be improvments to the 360 emulator for BC.



Yea I understand what you mean Criss I do suppose here in the UK we do actually get a fair amount of advertising the Halo 5 teasers have aired across a massive amount of channels and programs ranging from soaps/drama's - Rugby League/ Darts and many others inbetween. It's great to be in a pub and everyone watching them and wondering what it is wether it brings in sales or not is a different thing. I would still say generally Sony maybe got a 55%-60% of the ad time in the UK but they just seem, to repeat "#4theplayers" and in public places I find poeple just glance over at them rather that watch.

I do feel Xbox could go really agressive this year with the upcoming games and im hoping we actually see some Gears Ultrimate ads dumped between sports games as I always found it to be a massive system seller here even if its a remaster.



Just read the new preview update after installing it "This update contains fixes for certain developer scenarios, but no user-facing changes."



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WoodenPints said:
GamechaserBE said:
hmm got another large update on xone...Any news?

276mb, not sure msyelf just updating as I type this. I'm guessing it could be improvments to the 360 emulator for BC.

I have a 2500 mb one.



GamechaserBE said:
WoodenPints said:

276mb, not sure msyelf just updating as I type this. I'm guessing it could be improvments to the 360 emulator for BC.

I have a 2500 mb one.


No idea what that is theres no more updates ofr me to download, Guess I'll wait and see if your announcment page has anymore details. There was a post by MajorNelso today but I thought that was more for Windows 10. http://majornelson.com/2015/06/30/new-xbox-features-in-preview-on-windows-10-and-xbox-one/



crissindahouse said:
WoodenPints said:
Personally I don't think anything would change between the PS4 and X1 in Europe, Even if you swapped the game catalog's of each console around mainland Europe would still be a PS4 area.

Well, all I can do is to say how it's in Germany and in my opinion MS could be much more successful here if they would simply do what Sony does with advertisement and the likes. If MS always acts as if USA and UK are the only markets which count for them then it's no surprise that they aren't successful anywhere else. 

As Xbox owner you always have the feeling that MS doesn't care about your market here in Germany, as PS owner you get the feeling that nothing is more important for Sony as your market (and I think it's the same in many other countries). 

Sure, PS would be still more successful here but they simply gave everything away as if they don't care and even if they would start to try more here they won't succeed much because there are already so many who own a PS4 that other people will also buy one simply because they know that that's how they can play with friends who already own one. 

I mean, MS has the FIFA marketing deal but what does this help them when people think "to play FIFA with my friends I need a PS4"? It's the only deal they tried at least a little bit here but it's totally useless. 

When I see more TV ads for a game like Diablo 3 for PS4 ( a last gen port) as I see for Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, The MCC, Ryse and some more together I really don't know what's wrong with MS.

Same thing happens in Greece. Most Xbox One apps and services arent available here and i only recently started seeing TV commercials for xbox.

Sony on the other hand has very good interaction with the greek PS community and even has greek subtitles and dub for their first party titles.



What? I think it was 8:1 for Mirror's Edge, where did all the South Park votes come from? I get the feeling someone voted more than once with different IPs but well..



crissindahouse said:
What? I think it was 8:1 for Mirror's Edge, where did all the South Park votes come from? I get the feeling someone voted more than once with different IPs but well..

I've never understood why someone would go to all that effort to change the results of a poll.  



    

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