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i don't mind them as long as he/she doesn't act on it because it is not a crime until when that happend.



 

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There is a problem in that the press often confuses pedophilia with child abuse. Being a pedophile doesn't mean they've ever abused a child and of course they should be encouraged to seek help.

If they assault, abuse or rape a child it's obviously a criminal matter and they should go to prison.

There is actually a lot of research into pedophilia.

It was a number of years ago but I believe I've read that they tend to fall into two types. (There are differing theory's and classifications but they all generally break down into these two types).

As I understand it the first type tends to relate to children socially on the same level as themselves.

As we grow into adults normally the people we see as social equaled grows with us. (Not sure I'm using the right language here) This types of pedophile never makes that switch and never started to form full adult to adult social relationships. Then when they feel sexual attraction it's for children as that's who they socially relate to.

The other type of pedophile might be normal most of the time and have a normal lives however when under stress, pressure and other issue might revert to a more child like state where upon they start relating to children as the first type did.

I should also stress that this is about pedophilia as in people attracted to prepubescent children. The press of course uses that label with anyone who's committed a sexual crime against an under age kid even if the kids past puberty.



Random_Matt said:
It's a deviation from a biological and social norm. Furthermore, the psychological damage to a child can be severe, the hatred is arguably warranted. It is strange how some individuals feel they are not born this way, however, being homosexual is, but this is perhaps linked to people's biases, what they think is right and wrong.

Biologically, depends really. If it's sexual orientation -- as paedo-lobbyst groups insist -- then it's a part of the norm from medical standpoint. After all homosexuality has been listed as a medical disorder until ICD-8 inclusive along with transvetism, exhibitionism, trans-sexualism, sexual fetishism, various kinds of -philias, paedophilia included.

Socially, that's fixable. Just give more money to lobbysts, and in a decade or two society perception of paedophilia might be changed to a views "without preconceptions". It worked for homosexualism after all. Hell with that, it even worked for a certain disoreders like transvetism, which are still medical conditions officially. Doubt you could make it legal that easily, but why not give a try? Step by step lower age of consent to, say, 14. That'll make quite a few paedophilies very happy.



Talal said:
Nautilus said:

Many animes have female characters,which have big boobs and all, that looks like children.By that logic every person who watch said animes are pedophiles.

Personaly i dont think its wrong, even more if the pornography is what keeps them from doing the real thing


I don't consider that child pornography. I think child pornography (real children) is very harmful. Kids aren't mature enough to decide whether they want to particiate in it or not. They are easily persuaded and manipulated. Some don't even realise what they're doing. If child pornography becomes ok/legal then you'll end up seeing a lot more of it and with that a lot more kids will be hurt.

I agree with you at this point.Child pornography should never be legalized by the reasons you said.What i meant was  that cartoons that are lollipop-style(like ka-pi96 said before) could be used as a pressure reliever for those persons, and watching them should not be considered wrong.



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Pedophiles should all get killed period. If you talk good about them and have children yourself ypur sick. I do not appreciate them. And this phenomena has grown to the extend that people nowadays dont even dare to let their children play outside cause dem sick bastards walking around.

This topic is so sick that i really have a different view on users and regret that im a member. They are children dammit.

Yes they used to marry young back in the days. Man 13 with his 8 year old wife. But you cant compare that to a 50 year old with a 13. Or a 50 year abusing one. We should protect our children.

To hell with all pedophiles. As a matter of fact if a pedophile tries to get in my territory his life will end right there.

I know im agressive but im sure there are some herebwho have children and side with me on this



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Because it involves children, it has to be seen as a mental disorder imo. Abusing someone as innocent as your daughter or son can't be seen as a sexual orientation ever, because there can't be such thing as a romantic relationship between an adult and a kid.



...Let the Sony Domination continue with the PS4...

It's a social taboo, just like being a zoophile. Hence why society looks down on it; obviously, comitting the act is much different that simply being a pedophile, which only refers to the attraction.

 

I'd say being a pedophile in itself isn't anything wrong. If you commit the act, though, be prepared to face the judicial and ethical consequences.



JazzB1987 said:
Bofferbrauer said:
The problem with pedophilia is that it's exclusivly non-consentual, so there's no one who could live it's sexual orientation without abusing a child. This includes Child pornography, as these children are either forced to do so or doesn't even know what happens to them.

I would, however, also rather call it a sexual orientation than a mental disorder. The mental problem that comes with it for a person with pedophilia is to understand you'll never be able to live your sexual orientation, have to live a different life and to hide your actual orientation, which is probably too much pressure for quite a few of them and driving them literally mad.


The problem I have with this is the following tho.

How do you know if its non-consentual?

What if the child doesnt care? I mean lets assume the kid never saw movies or watched news or whatever and NOONE ever told the child that having sex can be something bad then the kid would not care.

Society just tells us whats good and whats bad.

What I mean by saying this?
Let me give you one example. (girl in this "story" being 25 years old not a 8 year old kid)

1 Girl is drunk and passes out. She gets raped. She never knows = no change whatsoever.

meanwhile in parallel universe.

1 Girl gets drunk passes out. She gets raped. She doesnt know for years and 3 years later someone tells her = OMG WORLD IMPLODES.

The only difference is in her head because know she thinks about how bad rape is in society and that she needs to feel ashamed sad angry scared etc.

We no it's not consentual because the kid doesn't have the understanding to give informed consent. Even if the kid felt it didn't mind it wouldn't be capable 
of giving consent. 

As for society telling us what's right and wrong. We create the rules about whats right and wrong in sociaty and we do so so we can live together in vast numbers with, ideally, a low risk of bad things happening to us and the people we care about, such as murder, thief and rape.



Ka-pi96 said:
I disagree that they have been born that way. And yeah it should definitely be stigmatised, in some ways at least. I mean if someone is really really in to young kids then they should be able to enjoy lolicon stuff since that is fictional and doesn't hurt anyone, as long as they stay far away from actual kids.


That. People are not born with a defined sexuality. Anyway, anyone who's "affected" by pedophilia and is strong enough to resist his urges should not be looked down upon.

Renouncing on its own sexuality is not easy.



Semmie said:
Pedophiles should all get killed period. If you talk good about them and have children yourself ypur sick. I do not appreciate them. And this phenomena has grown to the extend that people nowadays dont even dare to let their children play outside cause dem sick bastards walking around.

This topic is so sick that i really have a different view on users and regret that im a member. They are children dammit.

Yes they used to marry young back in the days. Man 13 with his 8 year old wife. But you cant compare that to a 50 year old with a 13. Or a 50 year abusing one. We should protect our children.

To hell with all pedophiles. As a matter of fact if a pedophile tries to get in my territory his life will end right there.

I know im agressive but im sure there are some herebwho have children and side with me on this

I pretty much think we all here agree that someone touching a child without the kid being okay with this is and should always result in painful punishment. (dick in meatgrinder  kind of punishment)

When does pedophilia stop in your opinion? I mean the age. When is a e.g 40 year old being in love with a "younger" person not pedophile anymore?  Age 12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21?