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DolPhanTendo said:
Why is this even in discussion. It's(pedophiles) adults forcing someone to do something without consent. Having two young children myself find this discussion horrible and should be locked. I think we as society moving backwards in a lot areas an this thinking now pedophilia is okay is apprehensible and should not be discussed like its normal and okay. No one is born to be sexually attractive to a child that's B.S.
NOT ONE CHILD WANTS TO BE TOUCHED IN THAT EITHER SO NO ONE SHOULD ACT ON IT,

The thread is exactly for people like you who equate pedophelia with crime. Putting someone for a mere potential to commit a crime on trial is dangerous.

"I mean why are there even institutions out to help people with mental disorders? Those are just enablers. There should be no discussion about mental disorders because people with mental disorders are a menace to society and should be put down immediately!"

See, that is how you and a lot of other people sound. Like a perfect throwback to the good old times when being gay was illegal and people with mental disorders were euthanized. Think about who really is moving backwards.

Saying that all pedophiles commit crimes is like saying that all priests rape little boys.



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Pedophilia is terrible, but is indeed something similar to the sexual orientation, is not something that you are able to choose, it comes with you, and it´s terrible.

Any form of sexual behaviour with childrens deserves a punishment, but if it´s only desire and they don´t touch the children then they shouldn´t be criminalized, because it is not their choice.

I had a terrible opinion about this people until I studied the matter, and is not what it seems, that people is coursed and is not their fault.



vivster said:
DolPhanTendo said:
Why is this even in discussion. It's(pedophiles) adults forcing someone to do something without consent. Having two young children myself find this discussion horrible and should be locked. I think we as society moving backwards in a lot areas an this thinking now pedophilia is okay is apprehensible and should not be discussed like its normal and okay. No one is born to be sexually attractive to a child that's B.S.
NOT ONE CHILD WANTS TO BE TOUCHED IN THAT EITHER SO NO ONE SHOULD ACT ON IT,

The thread is exactly for people like you who equate pedophelia with crime. Putting someone for a mere potential to commit a crime on trial is dangerous.

"I mean why are there even institutions out to help people with mental disorders? Those are just enablers. There should be no discussion about mental disorders because people with mental disorders are a menace to society and should be put down immediately!"

See, that is how you and a lot of other people sound. Like a perfect throwback to the good old times when being gay was illegal and people with mental disorders were euthanized. Think about who really is moving backwards.

Saying that all pedophiles commit crimes is like saying that all priests rape little boys.


all pedophiles do commit the crime that's why the name is past tense stop defending these people. I do not believe its a mental disorder I believe these people are evil people and should be handled accordingly.

And stop behind their thoughts argument because people can be convicted for having thoughts on murdering someone by let's say getting caught paying for hitman. So if have these thoughts and act on them through other means other than a child you should be convicted 



Daisuke72 said:
Anyone who's acting bewildered or confused as to why people look down upon pedophiles are blatant supports of it in my opinion. It's a common tactic for people to support something under the table without quite saying it.

Pedophiles more than likely will act on their disease r disease rather it be child porn or rape.Pedophiles don't belong in a civilized society period, the same as psychopaths and murderers.

We're talking here about Pedophilia, people whose only crime is to have been born attracted to children and not ones who have actually commited an act of child abuse. These people can't come out, they either keep this desire a secret or they'll be the scum of society. Society doesn't seek to help them, as someone mentioned above therapists even tell on pedophiles when these come for help, even though they have done nothing wrong.

 

They can live in a society, just like the rest of us ( Some may be even living next door to you bright now ). They aren't murderers or psychopaths. They are very much aware that pedophilia is far from normal and many try to resist it's urges, though society needs to accept them so as to help them further and therefore at the end of the day decreasing child abuse cases ( Of which I might add are not all, actually far from it, done by people with Pedophilia )



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DolPhanTendo said:
vivster said:

The thread is exactly for people like you who equate pedophelia with crime. Putting someone for a mere potential to commit a crime on trial is dangerous.

"I mean why are there even institutions out to help people with mental disorders? Those are just enablers. There should be no discussion about mental disorders because people with mental disorders are a menace to society and should be put down immediately!"

See, that is how you and a lot of other people sound. Like a perfect throwback to the good old times when being gay was illegal and people with mental disorders were euthanized. Think about who really is moving backwards.

Saying that all pedophiles commit crimes is like saying that all priests rape little boys.


all pedophiles do commit the crime that's why the name is past tense stop defending these people. I do not believe its a mental disorder I believe these people are evil people and should be handled accordingly.

And stop behind their thoughts argument because people can be convicted for having thoughts on murdering someone by let's say getting caught paying for hitman. So if have these thoughts and act on them through other means other than a child you should be convicted 

If you went back 50 years ago and expressed these thought on homosexuals, they would be accepted ( That of homosexuals being evil ) try doing that now. They're not evil, ounce again the media as a whole refers to Pedophilia as anyone who has commited child abuse yet not all/most don't actually have Pedophilia. I think we need to start from there, that not everyone who has commited child abuse is a pedophile.



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Mr.Playstation said:
DolPhanTendo said:


all pedophiles do commit the crime that's why the name is past tense stop defending these people. I do not believe its a mental disorder I believe these people are evil people and should be handled accordingly.

And stop behind their thoughts argument because people can be convicted for having thoughts on murdering someone by let's say getting caught paying for hitman. So if have these thoughts and act on them through other means other than a child you should be convicted 

If you went back 50 years ago and expressed these thought on homosexuals, they would be accepted ( That of homosexuals being evil ) try doing that now. They're not evil, ounce again the media as a whole refers to Pedophilia as anyone who has commited child abuse yet not all/most don't actually have Pedophilia. I think we need to start from there, that not everyone who has commited child abuse is a pedophile.

Most people called homosexuality a sin not being evil HUGE DIFFERENCE.

Secondly allowing this be rationalized is down fall to productive intelligent society. Reason why 3rd World countries find it okay and 1st world countries don't, it's not a coincidence 



DolPhanTendo said:
Mr.Playstation said:

If you went back 50 years ago and expressed these thought on homosexuals, they would be accepted ( That of homosexuals being evil ) try doing that now. They're not evil, ounce again the media as a whole refers to Pedophilia as anyone who has commited child abuse yet not all/most don't actually have Pedophilia. I think we need to start from there, that not everyone who has commited child abuse is a pedophile.

Most people called homosexuality a sin not being evil HUGE DIFFERENCE.

Secondly allowing this be rationalized is down fall to productive intelligent society. Reason why 3rd World countries find it okay and 1st world countries don't, it's not a coincidence 

Sin=Being Evil ( Under the eyes of god you're evil ) but whatever this thread is not here to discuss homosexuality.

 

It's quite clear what people and society think of people who have Pedophilia. They think their disgusting human beings who are out of societies norm and should even put to death as put by some here. Only time will tell if society starts helping these people and allowing them to seek help, while living a normal life and not just tell them "You're a diseased ridden monster". It's pretty clear society isn't ready for that.



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Err... i understand the feeling that children are cute and you love them, but from there to take it to a sexual fantasy level is... sick.
If its indeed something wrong with their brain, then yes i agree they should look for help and under no circunstances act upon it.

It's not the same as homosexuality, where it can be a reciprocal thing and become a legitimate relationship between 2 adults, in no way harmful to anyone.



DonFerrari said:
Zappykins said:
Because kids aren't really fully developed people or sexual beings yet.

Plus, they can't really consent. Like they can't drive a car or vote.

It's a creepy imbalance of power if an older more experienced person tries to manipulate them.

And someone 30 could manipulate and prey on a vunerable 50 person for sex and vice-versa. So what?

No, I don't think it's the equivalent at all.  A typical 30 or 50year old has a mature body, mature reproductive system, mature brain, and is responsible for their own actions.  They have experience having lived with the consequences of their actions, both good and those that they regret.

A 5, 11 or 14 year old has none of those things.  When people get really old or have demensia or other issue we have laws to protect them too. 

Your point is like saying, "My cat thinks he is a person - so we let him drive the car."



 

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Daisuke72 said:
Anyone who's acting bewildered or confused as to why people look down upon pedophiles are blatant supports of it in my opinion. It's a common tactic for people to support something under the table without quite saying it.

Pedophiles more than likely will act on their disease r disease rather it be child porn or rape.Pedophiles don't belong in a civilized society period, the same as psychopaths and murderers.


So you are in favor of persecuting people based solely upon their thoughts then?


Yes. These people are dangerous and have no business in a civilized society. They pose too much or a threat to the general public the same as psychopaths and an untamed animal would. I know countless people including me who was a victim of sexual abuse and among the people I know many never have spoke up due to various reasons and their attackers are still on the outside, potentially still touching other kids. 

 

My life was ruined by this pedophile and another who touched my brother. One of these pedophiles got locked up the other didn't and is probably still out there touching children. So fuck pedophiles for even having such sick, deluded, and selfish thoughts to think they can ruin someone else's life just to fill their sick sexual desires. No sympathy for them and if they don't act on it they should join a mental institution or place that removes them from the general public because they have no business being on the outside. 

 

And let's be real if you're a pedophile you've probably watched child porn which is a crime in itself and is ruining some kids life. I don't wanna hear that "I just watch loli not real porn" bullshit. Pedophiles quite simply aren't rational, worthy human beings.