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Probably because the only paedophiles we hear about are those that do act upon it. So the word has become synonymous with molestor and rapist. Those struggling with their urges are hardly going to put themselves into the spotlight and hope they aren't judged and abused for it.

I don't believe that attraction to those younger (or older for that matter) is congenital (which I do believe is the case for sexual gender orientation). But instead caused by environmental factors.



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Ka-pi96 said:
Talal said:
I guess if you never act on the sexual desires it's fine. Acting on the desires also includes looking at child pornography by the way.

But what if it's not actual children? I mentioned earlier that I thought lolicon should be fine for them, that's just fictional animated pornography. Doesn't harm anyone so I don't see a problem with that.


If it's not actual children then it's obviously fine in my opinion. Because it does not cause anyone harm. 



Ka-pi96 said:
Mr.Playstation said:
Ka-pi96 said:
I disagree that they have been born that way. And yeah it should definitely be stigmatised, in some ways at least. I mean if someone is really really in to young kids then they should be able to enjoy lolicon stuff since that is fictional and doesn't hurt anyone, as long as they stay far away from actual kids.

A guy was who has Pedophilia, was recently interviewed on Tv. His face was hid and his voiced manipulated, yet from his language it could be easily seen that he was scared, a lot,even going as far as mentioning various times that he shouldn't be disclousing such information to even the Tv presenter, who swore by oath that he wouldn't tell on him. From this level of fear this man/woman had it was quite obvious that his Pedophilia is far from invented.

I'm not saying it's fake or anything. Just that's it's something that develops as they grow up, much like many other aspects of personality, and isn't there from birth.


Actual from what I saw on TV on Sunday it doesn't develop. What they think happens is as a child they are attracted to other children (normal) then as they get older the attraction doesn't follow the norm where the attraction is towards the same age and instead they keep being attracted to children. What was the most disturbing thing they mentioned was that they know by their teens years that there is somehting not right with them and it get's worst as they get older.

TO me that sounds like a disorder not something that developed later in life where suddenly older men decided to lice children.



 

 

Because some people say so and the rest follows I guess?

Same reason why being gay is a problem
Or why being different is a problem (goth,emo,punk,)
I mean why is having more than 1 husband or wife also illegal in most places? Whats the plausible reason for that? If 1000 people love the same person and everyone is okay with that who gives a third party the right to interfere?

If its not done by most its a problem.


I mean hundreds of years ago we married our 8 year old daughters to some random 50 year old men.

Give it time and in 50 years things might be completely different from how they are today.






Because people don't care to distinguish the attraction from the act and the attraction itself is one which is morally wrong if acted upon for obvious reasons.

I agree that it is too stigmatised because at the end of the day people are inclined that way and the best thing is for them to receive support if they feel they are in need it or at least be open to friends they are close to. I'm sure 90% of people with such leanings are very capable of going a life without acting upon it and need no assistence, but for the 10% or probably much smaller they should be encouraged to seek help.



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Talal said:
I guess if you never act on the sexual desires it's fine. Acting on the desires also includes looking at child pornography by the way.

Many animes have female characters,which have big boobs and all, that looks like children.By that logic every person who watch said animes are pedophiles.

Personaly i dont think its wrong, even more if the pornography is what keeps them from doing the real thing



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

The problem with pedophilia is that it's exclusivly non-consentual, so there's no one who could live it's sexual orientation without abusing a child. This includes Child pornography, as these children are either forced to do so or doesn't even know what happens to them.

I would, however, also rather call it a sexual orientation than a mental disorder. The mental problem that comes with it for a person with pedophilia is to understand you'll never be able to live your sexual orientation, have to live a different life and to hide your actual orientation, which is probably too much pressure for quite a few of them and driving them literally mad.



Ka-pi96 said:
Nautilus said:

Many animes have female characters,which have big boobs and all, that looks like children.By that logic every person who watch said animes are pedophiles.

Personaly i dont think its wrong, even more if the pornography is what keeps them from doing the real thing

Already covered that

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7306084

Missed it completely!Need to enhance my abilities to write and post faster!



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Nautilus said:
Talal said:
I guess if you never act on the sexual desires it's fine. Acting on the desires also includes looking at child pornography by the way.

Many animes have female characters,which have big boobs and all, that looks like children.By that logic every person who watch said animes are pedophiles.

Personaly i dont think its wrong, even more if the pornography is what keeps them from doing the real thing


I don't consider that child pornography. I think child pornography (real children) is very harmful. Kids aren't mature enough to decide whether they want to particiate in it or not. They are easily persuaded and manipulated. Some don't even realise what they're doing. If child pornography becomes ok/legal then you'll end up seeing a lot more of it and with that a lot more kids will be hurt.



Bofferbrauer said:
The problem with pedophilia is that it's exclusivly non-consentual, so there's no one who could live it's sexual orientation without abusing a child. This includes Child pornography, as these children are either forced to do so or doesn't even know what happens to them.

I would, however, also rather call it a sexual orientation than a mental disorder. The mental problem that comes with it for a person with pedophilia is to understand you'll never be able to live your sexual orientation, have to live a different life and to hide your actual orientation, which is probably too much pressure for quite a few of them and driving them literally mad.


The problem I have with this is the following tho.

How do you know if its non-consentual?

What if the child doesnt care? I mean lets assume the kid never saw movies or watched news or whatever and NOONE ever told the child that having sex can be something bad then the kid would not care.

Society just tells us whats good and whats bad.

What I mean by saying this?
Let me give you one example. (girl in this "story" being 25 years old not a 8 year old kid)

1 Girl is drunk and passes out. She gets raped. She never knows = no change whatsoever.

meanwhile in parallel universe.

1 Girl gets drunk passes out. She gets raped. She doesnt know for years and 3 years later someone tells her = OMG WORLD IMPLODES.

The only difference is in her head because know she thinks about how bad rape is in society and that she needs to feel ashamed sad angry scared etc.