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ArchangelMadzz on 25 May 2015
DonFerrari said:
ArchangelMadzz said:


When did I say he/she never intended to use heroin? People are stupid and curious and give into pressure because.. humans suck.

They mess up and get addicted. I'd continue this post but reading the original one again would suffice.


You don't intend to get addict but try a very addictive substance... and you want to call that an accident that the person should be able to ammend right?

Seems like some people here want a life without consequences, where you can screw as much as you want and everything is fine... even in this site if you go against the rules (that are pretty restrict and what we do have no impact in RL) you get punished, but you want people to have unsafe sex, use drugs and call all that accidents?


I don't know how many times I have to say this but......  People are stupid, they always think 'oh i'll just try this once and i'll be fine I wont be one of those people' or do you just not know much about the world?

And I'm sure being addicted to heroin and doing whatever untold damage to yourself and everyone around you is a consequence it's up to us a HUMANS to make sure they get the help they need to become productive members of society and contribute like the rest of us.

 

Meh fuck it, that's too hard, throw them into a hell whole for 5 years and see them come out an even more damaged human being and laugh because we're so much better than them...

Wow. 



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tak13 on 25 May 2015
Ka-pi96 said:
I don't have a strong opinion on it or anything, but I'm definitely more against. If the woman doesn't want a baby she could just give it up for adoption (or better yet not get pregnant in the first place), but no need to kill it. Killing a poor innocent unborn baby just seems cruel to me


Same opinion here,I'm against and certainly NOT going by religion but by my heart!There are many infertile women or women who want a kid but they are in an age that can't conceive,and are able to be great  mothers,love kids and they would kill to have one!

Also,it's very ludicrous and annoying that some presenting that being against it's like saying to the women what to do with their body,anyone can be against without imposing to any woman what to do or not to do...Also,later you might regret it,and then it would be too late and woefelly, surplus that abortion can cause permament damage,you know what I mean!

Dear women if you have an undesirable pregnancy,it's not baby's fault,it's a fault of your/partener's carelessness...CONTRACEPTION LADIES AND CONDOMS GENTLEMEN

It might be a little bit exterme but I'll say it!Thousand times more preferable to abandon it so someone else take cares of it(Surely,double check to where/who you leave it,because there are some bad people/places and the baby deserves a good enviroment)or give it in orphanage than kill it and depriving it the present of life!

Most irksome thing is that some women have obsessions that they would kill it just to oppose to religion which forbids that,just to be ''revolutionar'' and ''non-conformist''!Moronic!Of course they can do what ever they want to their body,it's their,they decide!My aspect though....



DonFerrari on 25 May 2015
eva01beserk said:
DonFerrari said:
How is it that the person would have more regret or harder time giving for adoption than killing the baby? Does that even makes sense in people mind?

If you read my example again, what would you regret more?

Terminating a fetus that is very early on the process, before you get to attach to it?

Or waiting the 9 months, waiting to finally give brth to it and seeing that baby's face for the first time, holding it in your arms then inmediatly giving it away, while all throughout the preegnancy thinking if you should really give it away, how you could keep it and all that?

Always keep in mind, that, most mothers when they say that they are giving away the kid all through out the pregnancy, get all the feeling right when the baby is born and is then that they usually change their mind. Think about the episode of friends when phoebee gives the triplets way. That is actually how most cases go, the feeling anyways, a lot of mothers change their minds.

Murder is and should always be bigger regret than choosing to give away... it's obvious and hormonal that you will grow more attached during pregnancy... the beuty is that at any moment you can decide not to give away anymore, but when you terminate you loose that choice... and several women have became sterile after abortion due to several reasons, so that is even more reason to regret.

And I'm atheist so I have no believe of soul or following gospel, but for me is still people trying the easier way out (and that said, for rape I still agree it should be allowed to terminate for all the serious implications, but as also explaiined before you usually takes pills to prevent pregnancy in those cases, but in the odd case it didn't happened ok).

I see no valid reason to keep criminals alive and kill fetus in the same mindset... for me is the opposite, one had opportunities and screwed up (ok sometimes he didn't had much choice) the other is being refused it... as most pro-life says, if you were aborted you wouldn't be here, so you have no say in asking other babies to be killed.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 25 May 2015
DJEVOLVE said:
DonFerrari said:


Hope you don't mind when your mother decides to kill you, since you are the fruit of her choice she have the right to decides your fate.


Slipper slope is a horrible arguement and this is exactly what you did. LOL.

I see this debate will not go anywhere with critical thinking skills as yours, Good day sir.


You were the one that put the argument, so live to it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

eva01beserk on 25 May 2015
DonFerrari said:
ArchangelMadzz said:


When did I say he/she never intended to use heroin? People are stupid and curious and give into pressure because.. humans suck.

They mess up and get addicted. I'd continue this post but reading the original one again would suffice.


You don't intend to get addict but try a very addictive substance... and you want to call that an accident that the person should be able to ammend right?

Seems like some people here want a life without consequences, where you can screw as much as you want and everything is fine... even in this site if you go against the rules (that are pretty restrict and what we do have no impact in RL) you get punished, but you want people to have unsafe sex, use drugs and call all that accidents?

Dont think anybody ever claim that.  There should always be consequenses. But there are thigs that are out of our hands, even using protection pregnancy can happen. Driving safely can also involve you on an accident. A war will still kille inocent civilians. But if there is a chance some thiings can be avoided and we can learn from our mistakes withought sufering cripeling consequenses then thats fine too.



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DJEVOLVE on 25 May 2015
tak13 said:
Ka-pi96 said:
I don't have a strong opinion on it or anything, but I'm definitely more against. If the woman doesn't want a baby she could just give it up for adoption (or better yet not get pregnant in the first place), but no need to kill it. Killing a poor innocent unborn baby just seems cruel to me


Same opinion here,I'm against and certainly NOT going by religion but by my heart!There are many infertile women or women who want a kid but they are in an age that can't conceive,and are able to be great  mothers,love kids and they would kill to have one!

Also,it's very ludicrous and annoying that some presenting that being against it's like saying to the women what to do with their body,anyone can be against without imposing to any woman what to do or not to do...Also,later you might regret it,and then it would be too late and woefelly, surplus that abortion can cause permament damage,you know what I mean!

Dear women if you have an undesirable pregnancy,it's not baby's fault,it's a fault of your/partener's carelessness...CONTRACEPTION LADIES AND CONDOMS GENTLEMEN

It might be a little bit exterme but I'll say it!Thousand times more preferable to abandon it so someone else take cares of it(Surely,double check to where/who you leave it,because there are some bad people/places and the baby deserves a good enviroment)or give it in orphanage than kill it and depriving it the present of life!

Most irksome thing is that some women have obsessions that they would kill it just to oppose to religion which forbids that,just to be ''revolutionar'' and ''non-conformist''!Moronic!Of course they can do what ever they want to their body,it's their,they decide!My aspect though....


It's a ZYGOTE, not a baby. Seems that people who want to control woman can't understand science, like at all.



DonFerrari on 25 May 2015
ArchangelMadzz said:
DonFerrari said:


Yep, let just do whatever we want and just cover it up with a pill, seems such a good reason.


No.. lets not force people to have children they do not want. Especially when all you're doing is preventing a fetus from developing, you're not killing a human being.

Also you're clearly uneducated on abortion if you think it's always just a simple pill.

EDIT: If you think it's ever just a simple pill.

Keep your evaluation of my education of the discussion please...

Simple pill is an over simplification. And you want someone to regulate what is or isn't life, when life begins and etc to say it's acceptable to abort or not?

 

If you had a condom burst, or were drunk and had unprotected sex, go and take a after day pill... else you simply doesn't seem to care much to them demand that you just terminate a fetus.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

pepharytheworm on 25 May 2015

Nothing more hilarious then hearing a bunch of males opinions on human bodily function they can't perform. Want to talk about your thoughts on public breastfeeding and menstruation too?

Also in case people were wondering, women being charged for a miscarriage is called feticide. One woman has been jailed in Indiana, there are several other cases of women being charged and Mississsippi is trying to create new laws to prosecute feticides.





DJEVOLVE on 25 May 2015

This thread is full of Fanatics, Go join a religious oppressive group and be done with it. I'm out of here. Have fun explaining this to closed minded people who want to control every single aspect of a woman's life. Since you know better than them and want to impose big government to get your way. PEACE! By the way, the percentage of people that want to control woman is a minority and shrinking everyday. In 20 years, you will be but a sliver of industrial nations and thank the fonz for that.



DonFerrari on 25 May 2015
Toxy said:
Just so people understand:
Using protection is not 100% fool proof. You can use protection and still impregnate/become pregnant.

Both parties may not be ready to have a child, and may not want to put the child up for adoption, as going through 9 months of pregnancy can be a major toll on someone's life as it can interrupt their career, education etc.

Also in the earlier stages of pregnancy, it has been scientifically proven that it is not a baby, or human for that matter. It is simply a bunch of cells. It is no different to ejaculating into a sock or towel. "Your sperm could have created life, but you have ripped it of producing life". You see where I am going with this?

People should have the choice to have children, or put them up for adoption if they so choose.

To force someone to be a parent who is not prepared, does not have the finances to do so - to this I would say would be irresponsible.

Those who decide they want to give the baby up for adoption will do so.
Those who decide they want children will do so.

Also if someone is raped, they should not have to deal with a constant reminder about it for 9 months just so they can donate their rape baby to someone else. I do not know why this is even an argument.

The human race is not on the brink of destruction, there is no need for such a strong emphasis on the need to breed.

Honestly, I believe abortions or adoptions for that matter should happen more often. The amount of neglectful parents there are, leading to their children to becoming psychotic, depressed, or any other mental illness that may be involved is harmful to society.

Killing a bunch of cells is not harmful to society. The ova is essentially cells and so is semen. When you put the two together, it takes a long time before they amount to anything more than cells.
Ejaculating into a condom is essentially an abortion because you did not give that sperm the chance at life and so forth.


grow ups is a bunch of cell as well... and cientists haven't even much knowledge about human brain, much less "proven" when life begins... if an unicelular being can be called a life why do you want to quantify how many cells a baby needs to be called life?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."