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I hate them a bit :) 44 16.79%
 
I hate them a lot :D 36 13.74%
 
Nah, just a bunch of liars 66 25.19%
 
Project Liar 115 43.89%
 
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oniyide on 26 May 2015
SubiyaCryolite said:
padib said:

The 360 had Forza. Case closed?

As for the STM, you said yourself it existed in 2012 as part of the pre-alpha. That version of the STM was SUFFICIENT for the U. The added complexity could have been left for the stronger consoles. That's software architecture and it is certainly feasible and simple to decouple the complexity of the STM with the rest of the game.

FALSE

Devs were dissapointed in the CPUs performance compared to both the Xenos and Cell.

More was added to the game and engine since 2012. So just because STM + everything else ran at 30fps in 2012 doesnt mean STM + everything else will run at 30fps in 2015.

Geez. A lot happens in 3 years. That extra 6 month delay was probably an attempt to rectify the issue on Wii U specifically, why cant you guys see that? You're just out for blood.

And its no wonder they didnt release any Wii U footage if it ran at 23fps this late in the cycle, for fucks sake. They wouldnt release any stills either cause they hadn't made any cuts just yet, lest they got cries of "downgradation" and "gimping".

Im done. So done.

They should never had wasted their time.


they could have released a horrible version of the game or just made a different one just for Wii U. Both would have been a time sink and both would have been called lazy and gimped either way. I doubt alot of people would have bought it.



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Goodnightmoon on 26 May 2015
oniyide said:
I want to answer this why PS360 owners arent complaining question. I got a few theories, just for yu padib

1. those systems are silly with racing sims absoulutely stocked, if one gets cancelled its not the end of the world, they have nothing to prove on that front not when they host GT/Forza. Wii U...not so much.

2. e peen measurements. "look at my system of choice games, its betterer than yours!" hard argument to make if said system straight up is lacking in genres, in this case racing sims.

3. Ninty fans seem to be least understanding, i think this thread backs that up. Any percieved slight and...well we see what happens.

4. 3rd party support is never in question when it comes to PS systems and to a lesser extent xbox. Except Vita and for good reason. Cant really say the same for Ninty home consoles, so everything is going to be blown up bigger on that end.

5. PS360 owners are less emotional

these are just theories.

Those are more silly prejudices than theories.



oniyide on 26 May 2015
Goodnightmoon said:
oniyide said:
I want to answer this why PS360 owners arent complaining question. I got a few theories, just for yu padib

1. those systems are silly with racing sims absoulutely stocked, if one gets cancelled its not the end of the world, they have nothing to prove on that front not when they host GT/Forza. Wii U...not so much.

2. e peen measurements. "look at my system of choice games, its betterer than yours!" hard argument to make if said system straight up is lacking in genres, in this case racing sims.

3. Ninty fans seem to be least understanding, i think this thread backs that up. Any percieved slight and...well we see what happens.

4. 3rd party support is never in question when it comes to PS systems and to a lesser extent xbox. Except Vita and for good reason. Cant really say the same for Ninty home consoles, so everything is going to be blown up bigger on that end.

5. PS360 owners are less emotional

these are just theories.

Those are more silly prejudices than theories.

like how 3rd parties are evil? im just spitballing here. Its not all gonna be gold. Why did you get so upset? 



DonFerrari on 26 May 2015
AEGRO said:
Goodnightmoon said:

I´m sick of that argument. "oh if you want a third party game why you buy a wiiu"

They have been hyping the game 2 years, That´s what I wanted it, we were not hopig to have a version too, it was confirmed sice 2013, that´s why we were waiting for it. I can buy it on PC too but I want this game on my WiiU, if not, no game. I´m not going to support this shitty behaviours from developers, if they couldn´t make the game, the shouldn´t have said all the lies they have been telling us the past 2 years.


Why arent you sick of Reggies lies? He promised all of you back at 2012 that the Wii U would have the support of the industry. 3 years later look at the entire panorama, it is just unacceptable from a consumer point of view.

 

If Slighty Mad Studios manages to complete the game on the Wii U but have to downgrade it hard from what we have seen from the PC, Ps4 or X1, would you buy it? Would you buy the game running at 640p/30? With less cars on the road? Would you?

 

Do i have to remind you what happened with Watch Dogs? The situation was the same, every version was released but the Wii U. Then months later the game was released slighty downgraded from the 8th gen version, but still better than the 7th gen versions, what happened? The game FLOPPED so horribly that Ubisoft stopped releasing games for the Wii U. It was the last chance for you people and nobody stood up for the developer. Every single Ubisoft game have flopped on the Wii U, minus ZombiU for obvious reasons.

 

Lets be real here people, Project Cars would have flopped on the Wii U.


ZombieU flopped as well... didn't paid back at all... so that only leaves Just Dance... even the fantastic Wonderfull 101 that is exclusive sold shameless on very little competition, but I bet there are excuses for that.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

AEGRO on 26 May 2015
DonFerrari said:
AEGRO said:


Why arent you sick of Reggies lies? He promised all of you back at 2012 that the Wii U would have the support of the industry. 3 years later look at the entire panorama, it is just unacceptable from a consumer point of view.

 

If Slighty Mad Studios manages to complete the game on the Wii U but have to downgrade it hard from what we have seen from the PC, Ps4 or X1, would you buy it? Would you buy the game running at 640p/30? With less cars on the road? Would you?

 

Do i have to remind you what happened with Watch Dogs? The situation was the same, every version was released but the Wii U. Then months later the game was released slighty downgraded from the 8th gen version, but still better than the 7th gen versions, what happened? The game FLOPPED so horribly that Ubisoft stopped releasing games for the Wii U. It was the last chance for you people and nobody stood up for the developer. Every single Ubisoft game have flopped on the Wii U, minus ZombiU for obvious reasons.

 

Lets be real here people, Project Cars would have flopped on the Wii U.


ZombieU flopped as well... didn't paid back at all... so that only leaves Just Dance... even the fantastic Wonderfull 101 that is exclusive sold shameless on very little competition, but I bet there are excuses for that.

 

Its a shame that Wii U owners didnt buy W101, like you said excuses will be plenty but the matter of the fact is that the game flopped, period.

 

In my humble opinion, Wonderful 101 looks WAAAAAY better than Splatoon, which is being hyped to the max, i hope people actually go out with their wallets in hand and spend some benjamins. But in all honestly, i think Splatoon will flop too...



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DonFerrari on 26 May 2015

Too much people with 0 knowledge about programing and making games discussing how easy it would be to make it viable and mantain the core game just for the sake of bashing... people really believes the dev done that just to piss they off and lose money?

Several games are sloopy performance wise a few months before release, what about 2 years before? The game could be running good on scope of that time but for new plans it was subpar. If they remove features that would still be they lying on delivering core features.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 26 May 2015
AEGRO said:
DonFerrari said:
AEGRO said:


Why arent you sick of Reggies lies? He promised all of you back at 2012 that the Wii U would have the support of the industry. 3 years later look at the entire panorama, it is just unacceptable from a consumer point of view.

 

If Slighty Mad Studios manages to complete the game on the Wii U but have to downgrade it hard from what we have seen from the PC, Ps4 or X1, would you buy it? Would you buy the game running at 640p/30? With less cars on the road? Would you?

 

Do i have to remind you what happened with Watch Dogs? The situation was the same, every version was released but the Wii U. Then months later the game was released slighty downgraded from the 8th gen version, but still better than the 7th gen versions, what happened? The game FLOPPED so horribly that Ubisoft stopped releasing games for the Wii U. It was the last chance for you people and nobody stood up for the developer. Every single Ubisoft game have flopped on the Wii U, minus ZombiU for obvious reasons.

 

Lets be real here people, Project Cars would have flopped on the Wii U.


ZombieU flopped as well... didn't paid back at all... so that only leaves Just Dance... even the fantastic Wonderfull 101 that is exclusive sold shameless on very little competition, but I bet there are excuses for that.

 

Its a shame that Wii U owners didnt buy W101, like you said excuses will be plenty but the matter of the fact is that the game flopped, period.

 

In my humble opinion, Wonderful 101 looks WAAAAAY better than Splatoon, which is being hyped to the max, i hope people actually go out with their wallets in hand and spend some benjamins. But in all honestly, i think Splatoon will flop too...


Sad truth... well at least for the people who cared and bought they got a game that at least for you was pleasant...



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Nautilus on 27 May 2015

they are trying to cover their asses now.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/05/27/project-cars-dev-responds-to-criticism-over-wii-u-version



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

SubiyaCryolite on 27 May 2015
Nautilus said:
they are trying to cover their asses now.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/05/27/project-cars-dev-responds-to-criticism-over-wii-u-version

Stating facts != covering asses. The faux outrage is getting old.



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

Sharu on 28 May 2015
SubiyaCryolite said:
Nautilus said:
they are trying to cover their asses now.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/05/27/project-cars-dev-responds-to-criticism-over-wii-u-version

Stating facts != covering asses. The faux outrage is getting old.

Subiya, are you working in Slightly Mad? Or your aunt maybe? The personal attention you defend them with looks amazing! )