Samsung GameBox!

Those guys have their hands in everything! >.>

-N64 games havent aged better, the console doesnt even support rgb output unlike the ps1 and saturn. Play them on your lcd tv and you will see for your self. And unlike both consoles the n64 has almost zero 2D/sprites type games. And the texture filter on the n64 is horrible. You can actually play your ps1 game on your ps2, turn off smoothging textures and play via component cables making the ps1 games look alot better than n64.

- sega had allready plans making online gaming to be payed, i made a dreamcast thread about it.

- what prove do you have dlc wouldnt be possible under sega or nintendo? I recall nintendo releasing pokemon blue, red and yellow on the gameboy, wasnt that dlc or maybe even worse? Sega was actually very cozy with EA thats why the megadrive got so many sports games. You can see the potential there.

- if playstation did go away you wouldnt see games being made like bloodborne, gravity rush, the last of us, tear away and many other games sponsored or devoloped by sony. And those are the newest games, there were countless games who were devoloped by sony or brought to life by their money and decisions. See namco, final fantasy and jrpgs in my other post.

Just because sony doesnt have a mascot or is milking its existing franchises over and over again doesnt mean they output less games than nintendo. This is what i like about sony, they dont need a mascot to make games. They always have something new in each generation. Segas downfall is also related about to their obsession with sonic over their other games. MS has now the same problems with Masterchief.

I have no dislike for the Playstation but if they continue to dominate the console market more and more it will stifle creativity and may actually do the opposite the OP suggests.

it was the cheapest DVD player for years...

I think Playstation gets a little too much credit for making gaming mainstream, of the 3 major territories, Europe was the only one that grew significantly due to Playstation. Console gaming was already big in America & Japan before Playstation.

but it wasnt cool... the PS made gaming cool, so casuals could play it.

I don't think it would have it another crash, but it definitely wouldn't have grown to what it is today.  I mean, if you look at the growth from the 3rd gen to 4th gen, there are signs that growth was very slow, maybe even barely any. 

In the 3rd gen, we had the NES (62M), SMS (13M), Atari 7200 (4M), and SG-1000 (couldn't find hard numbers, so let's go with 1M), which sold 80M combined.  The market leader, the NES, sold 62M units.  In the 4th gen, we had the SNES (49M), Genesis (40M), TurboGrafx (10M), and Neo Geo and CDi (1M combined), selling 100M combined.  That shows a 20M growth in overal numbers, however, given that the market leader actually dropped 13M, I think it's safe to assume we have quite a few crossover buyers (those who bought more than one system.)

Now, let's look at the incredible growth during the 5th gen.  We had the PS1 (103M), N64 (33M), Sega Saturn (10M), and 3DO (2M) selling close to 150M.  That's not only about a 50M growth, but the market leader also grew 54M and sold more than all consoles from the previous gen combined.  The 2nd outing of the PS saw even more growth.  We had the PS2 (158M), Xbox (24M), GC (22M), and DC (11M) selling 215M.  That's another 65M in growth, with the market leader once again selling more than the last gen combined. Now, after the PS2 expanded the market incredibly, I think we have sort of hit a saturation point for how fast the market can grow.

This last gen, we did have the Wii (102M), PS3 (90M+), 360 (88M+), which will go on to sell 280M+.  Of course, last gen has to be put into perspective, since we saw an artificial inflated growth thanks to a large number of casuals who joined, but have since jumped onto phone/tablet gaming.  And because of Sony's poor decisions before/at launch, Sony and MS pretty much split the core market in half, with Nintendo taking a few.  Still, I think we did see some legitimate growth.  As far as this current gen goes, I think we will see a "shrinking" in the market.  Of course, it won't exactly be a true shrinkage, since it's mostly due to casuals exiting the market.  I think we will still see the market grow slightly over the 6th gen.  Probably 135M for PS4, 65M for XBO, and 21M for Wii U.

i thought the thread was about this generation only.

the industry doesn't revolve around playstation, so no.

Soooo, if Nintendo hadn't saved the industry back in the 80s, Sony would have had nothing to save in the 90s.