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NewGuy on 12 April 2015

Seems like amazon is sold out of the standalone PS4 SKU, is that correct?



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sabvre42 on 12 April 2015
NewGuy said:
Seems like amazon is sold out of the standalone PS4 SKU, is that correct?

It appears so. It's only sold by third parties at the moment.



Aura7541 on 12 April 2015
bananaking21 said:
BraLoD said:

Both. PR fuel and over estimations about market demand, they must really have believed it would carry the momentum to this year, but even so such amount that lasted until April... yup, they wanted big numbers, way more than they could believe they would be able to actually sell.

The next numbers should be really low.

And people were believing such extra shippments were 360 sales...

they still shipped XB1's  with the new Halo bundle though. shipments wont be that low.

It'll be interesting see MS's shipments. In Abdiel's case, at least, the MCC bundle didn't do much, especially last month where the AC bundle was still the go-to bundle in most retailers.



Nuvendil on 12 April 2015
bananaking21 said:
Aura7541 said:

Alright, it looks like we a have a good clue to how much Microsoft has overshipped the Assassin's Creed bundle. Here's Abdiel's assessement:

"Our DCs have had a just absolute ton of those AC bundles since December, and we're finally bleeding them down to the last vestiges. And really, even that's become a crawl, because the Halo bundle has largely just replaced sales of the AC bundle, so there's no increase in speed of sales, at all."


so MS went and shipped more XB1's when there was still a shit ton of AC XB1's already in stores? 

They're padding their count.  That's all there is to it.  And what I believe they are doing is rather questionable ethically (though not legally).  Basically, you can't force a manufacturer to take x number of units really.  And you can't force them to buy x unit in order to buy y unit.  But what MS CAN (and likely does) do is say something along the lines of "Well, of course those who accept the most get priority in shipments of consoles and games" *winkwink* which is bascially "Take this shipment or we'll put you on the short list when the next wave of pretty much anything we make comes out."  I mean, why else would these companies waste such ridiculous ammounts of warehouse space?  ESPECIALLY where the MCC bundle is concerned.  If you have a ton of one bundle laying around, why on earth would you accept a huge shipment of ANOTHER bundle? 

But basically, MS is trying to delay the revelation of ACTUAL sales numbers as long as possible by artificially raising recent estimates using channel-stuffing tactics.  They did this last year too with the Titanfall bundle which wasn't even completely sold through when fall of 2014 rolled around.



CosmicSex on 12 April 2015
GribbleGrunger said:

Has this appeared on amazon US yet?


That is an incredible bundle. 



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GribbleGrunger on 12 April 2015
Nuvendil said:

They're padding their count.  That's all there is to it.  And what I believe they are doing is rather questionable ethically (though not legally).  Basically, you can't force a manufacturer to take x number of units really.  And you can't force them to buy x unit in order to buy y unit.  But what MS CAN (and likely does) do is say something along the lines of "Well, of course those who accept the most get priority in shipments of consoles and games" *winkwink* which is bascially "Take this shipment or we'll put you on the short list when the next wave of pretty much anything we make comes out."  I mean, why else would these companies waste such ridiculous ammounts of warehouse space?  ESPECIALLY where the MCC bundle is concerned.  If you have a ton of one bundle laying around, why on earth would you accept a huge shipment of ANOTHER bundle? 

But basically, MS is trying to delay the revelation of ACTUAL sales numbers as long as possible by artificially raising recent estimates using channel-stuffing tactics.  They did this last year too with the Titanfall bundle which wasn't even completely sold through when fall of 2014 rolled around.

MS have always done that though. Do we know for certain that the bulk of the overshipments are actually at retail? What if MS are storing them before shipping them? Couldn't this be why they can get away with making statements like 'we're approaching *insert number* shipped'? Just as you've pointed out though, whatever they're doing, the 'shit will hit the fan' at some point and shareholders could well revolt (assuming shareholders are also fooled by this metho of course). I really do think MS are preparing for a possible sale but are trying to encourage growth through investment in order to give the XB brand the best possible value.



 

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Ryng on 12 April 2015

Seem that the dropped continued...



CosmicSex on 12 April 2015

Ass Creed bundle (hence forth known as the undying) has over taken MCC once again in the hourly... I don't really understand whats up with that...

Oh nevermind... they Ass Creed bundle is being offered with a live card at 389.99 which explains the boost to both.



Ryng on 12 April 2015

Damn, AC bundle still above MCC!?



Nuvendil on 12 April 2015
GribbleGrunger said:
Nuvendil said:

They're padding their count.  That's all there is to it.  And what I believe they are doing is rather questionable ethically (though not legally).  Basically, you can't force a manufacturer to take x number of units really.  And you can't force them to buy x unit in order to buy y unit.  But what MS CAN (and likely does) do is say something along the lines of "Well, of course those who accept the most get priority in shipments of consoles and games" *winkwink* which is bascially "Take this shipment or we'll put you on the short list when the next wave of pretty much anything we make comes out."  I mean, why else would these companies waste such ridiculous ammounts of warehouse space?  ESPECIALLY where the MCC bundle is concerned.  If you have a ton of one bundle laying around, why on earth would you accept a huge shipment of ANOTHER bundle? 

But basically, MS is trying to delay the revelation of ACTUAL sales numbers as long as possible by artificially raising recent estimates using channel-stuffing tactics.  They did this last year too with the Titanfall bundle which wasn't even completely sold through when fall of 2014 rolled around.

MS have always done that though. Do we know for certain that the bulk of the overshipments are actually at retail? What if MS are storing them before shipping them? Couldn't this be why they can get away with making statements like 'we're approaching *insert number* shipped'? Just as you've pointed out though, whatever they're doing, the 'shit will hit the fan' at some point and shareholders could well revolt (assuming shareholders are also fooled by this metho of course). I really do think MS are possibly preparing for a possible sale but are trying to encourage growth through investment in order to give the XB brand the best possible value.

I guarantee you they aren't "fake" shipping.  In order to that, they would have to put companies down for shipments they didn't ask for, which will get them in enormous trouble.  I mean, it's possible but since MS knows they are under scrutiny from outside due to their size, I doubt anyone in the company would risk that.