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The FCC isn't even doing anything. The person in the article is speculating that the FCC might do something. Do people even read the articles anymore?



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Thank god, Comcast drives me crazy...



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IGN basically re-posted this.

At least it's getting momentum.



sc94597 said:
Mr Khan said:
WookieSquatch said:
Yeah that is a crap article. Comcast isn't blocking any traffic, they just refuse to authenticate Comcast users on those platforms, but they are doing that as a content provider, not and ISP.

How convenient, given that there's an even chance your cable provider is your ISP.

Is it not important for regulations to be consistent and true to their language and intent? Even if your cable company is also your ISP this situation doesn't fit within the context of the regulation. It is a cable company choosing to not allow a service that others provide. It is the equivalent of video game consoles having exclusive video games. Furthermore, should not such a ruling also apply to companies like Apple, which will be the only devices to have the standalone HBO subscription service? I am no fan of Comcast, as I have had problems with them in the past, but I think such things need to be consistent and fair, otherwise we don't live in a liberal politicy. 

It's definitely not the same as console exclusivity: games are developed for consoles, while HBO GO is a web service. If you have a device with an internet connection, you should have full access to the internet. If you bought a console, you should have access to the games developed for that console. There is a cost involved with development that is a direct result of the unique hardware involved for each console. If that wasn't the case, we wouldn't hear about porting issues, and there never would have been the 1080p PS4/720p X1 fiasco. If the issue were centered around Comcast's unwillingness to develop an app that is PS compatible, then they would have every right to demand reasonable compensation.



Insidb said:
sc94597 said:

Is it not important for regulations to be consistent and true to their language and intent? Even if your cable company is also your ISP this situation doesn't fit within the context of the regulation. It is a cable company choosing to not allow a service that others provide. It is the equivalent of video game consoles having exclusive video games. Furthermore, should not such a ruling also apply to companies like Apple, which will be the only devices to have the standalone HBO subscription service? I am no fan of Comcast, as I have had problems with them in the past, but I think such things need to be consistent and fair, otherwise we don't live in a liberal politicy. 

It's definitely not the same as console exclusivity: games are developed for consoles, while HBO GO is a web service. If you have a device with an internet connection, you should have full access to the internet. If you bought a console, you should have access to the games developed for that console. There is a cost involved with development that is a direct result of the unique hardware involved for each console. If that wasn't the case, we wouldn't hear about porting issues, and there never would have been the 1080p PS4/720p X1 fiasco. If the issue were centered around Comcast's unwillingness to develop an app that is PS compatible, then they would have every right to demand reasonable compensation.

You do have full access to the Internet in this case. You can download the app regardless of ISP. You just cant use a comcast cable subscription to log in. it would cost Comcast money to create a server that will accept traffic from PS4's for account verification. And of course there is the opportunity cost of platform exclusivity. Therefore they choose to not provide their CABLE subscribers with the option to log into their accounts from PS4s. Sure it is a shitty move, but it doesn't violate any current regulations on cable companies.



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sc94597 said:

You do have full access to the Internet in this case. You can download the app regardless of ISP. You just cant use a comcast cable subscription to log in. it would cost Comcast money to create a server that will accept traffic from PS4's for account verification. And of course there is the opportunity cost of platform exclusivity. Therefore they choose to not provide their CABLE subscribers with the option to log into their accounts from PS4s. Sure it is a shitty move, but it doesn't violate any current regulations on cable companies.


Wouldn't they just use an exsisting server for that? You can already use the App on other devices that require the same sort of verification.

I think the issue here is that if you pay for HBO, HBO GO is part of that purchase. This means that Comcast has made the decision to block it's paying customers from using an app that isn't even theres on hardware made by another company. All they have to do is allow authentication, something that pretty much every other company has no issue with.

Is it in FCC teritory? Maybe, maybe not. But it makes Comcast the biggest dicks in the cable buisiness.



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Normchacho said:
sc94597 said:

You do have full access to the Internet in this case. You can download the app regardless of ISP. You just cant use a comcast cable subscription to log in. it would cost Comcast money to create a server that will accept traffic from PS4's for account verification. And of course there is the opportunity cost of platform exclusivity. Therefore they choose to not provide their CABLE subscribers with the option to log into their accounts from PS4s. Sure it is a shitty move, but it doesn't violate any current regulations on cable companies.


Wouldn't they just use an exsisting server for that? You can already use the App on other devices that require the same sort of verification.

I think the issue here is that if you pay for HBO, HBO GO is part of that purchase. This means that Comcast has made the decision to block it's paying customers from using an app that isn't even theres on hardware made by another company. All they have to do is allow authentication, something that pretty much every other company has no issue with.

Is it in FCC teritory? Maybe, maybe not. But it makes Comcast the biggest dicks in the cable buisiness.

There are added security measures and higher usages with any new device. If Comcast added all of the devices they don't support now, there are obviously going to be more costs involved. Now I personally think the additional revenue from subscribers would help, but apparently Comcast views their consumers as more inelastic than I do. As for HBO GO being part of the purchase, that is up to an interpretation of the contracts. To me, it seems like HBO GO is a new service that most cable providers support, but don't have to. Comcast probably would argue that their contract says nothing about an inclusion of HBO GO service. The reason why Comcast is doing this and other companies are not, is that Comcast wants to sell Xfinity devices. 

As for Comcast being the biggest dicks in the cable business, they have been for a long time haha. 



Normchacho said:
sc94597 said:

You do have full access to the Internet in this case. You can download the app regardless of ISP. You just cant use a comcast cable subscription to log in. it would cost Comcast money to create a server that will accept traffic from PS4's for account verification. And of course there is the opportunity cost of platform exclusivity. Therefore they choose to not provide their CABLE subscribers with the option to log into their accounts from PS4s. Sure it is a shitty move, but it doesn't violate any current regulations on cable companies.


Wouldn't they just use an exsisting server for that? You can already use the App on other devices that require the same sort of verification.

I think the issue here is that if you pay for HBO, HBO GO is part of that purchase. This means that Comcast has made the decision to block it's paying customers from using an app that isn't even theres on hardware made by another company. All they have to do is allow authentication, something that pretty much every other company has no issue with.

Is it in FCC teritory? Maybe, maybe not. But it makes Comcast the biggest dicks in the cable buisiness.


They might use an existing server, but that is beside the point. As a content provider they have no obligation to provide that service. Imagine if Direct TV did the same thing, would you cry net neutrality then even though they don't even offer internet services? What makes Comcast different?

I seriously doubt they have any obligation in their contracts with either HBO or the customers to offer HBO go on every device. My obscure settop box isn't supported (Popcorn Hour). Are they obligated to support that too? There's actually tons of set top boxes that aren't supported, are they in breach on contract for those too?



WookieSquatch said:
Normchacho said:


Wouldn't they just use an exsisting server for that? You can already use the App on other devices that require the same sort of verification.

I think the issue here is that if you pay for HBO, HBO GO is part of that purchase. This means that Comcast has made the decision to block it's paying customers from using an app that isn't even theres on hardware made by another company. All they have to do is allow authentication, something that pretty much every other company has no issue with.

Is it in FCC teritory? Maybe, maybe not. But it makes Comcast the biggest dicks in the cable buisiness.


They might use an existing server, but that is beside the point. As a content provider they have no obligation to provide that service. Imagine if Direct TV did the same thing, would you cry net neutrality then even though they don't even offer internet services? What makes Comcast different?

I seriously doubt they have any obligation in their contracts with either HBO or the customers to offer HBO go on every device. My obscure settop box isn't supported (Popcorn Hour). Are they obligated to support that too? There's actually tons of set top boxes that aren't supported, are they in breach on contract for those too?


I didn't cry net neutrality at all, in case you hadn't noticed. 

That isn't the same thing. You're suggesting that HBO has to make the app available on every device, this is Comcast keeping it's customers from using it on a device that is already supported.



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KylieDog said:
Rafie said:
So why not block content from Xbox then as well?! Why only the PS platforms? Hmmm....

 

SjOne said:
Why us this allowed on Xbox platforms but not PlayStation platforms?



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