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jlmurph2 on 14 March 2015
Gamer_of_the_Year said:
jlmurph2 said:

The Order sold around 200k for February's NPD. 

Proof? You do realize that just because you keep saying something like a tick doesn't make it true right? 

The same NPD thread that everyone uses as a source. The source for that is the NPD insider on neogaf.



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Kerotan on 14 March 2015
Samus Aran said:
Gamer_of_the_Year said:

 


Do you even realize how pathetically weak your hypothesis is? lol

I can turn your tragically flaw logic against you. Couldn't it be surmised that maybe MHU just had piss poor digital sales and um excuse me but uh without having the totals for the number 8th spot game you CANNOT say the order did less than 290k. Makes no sense. Why? Glad you asked: BECAUSE MHU WAS BELOW IT AT 10 ON THE TOP 10 LIST!! lol 

The #1 game sold 515k copies (digital plus retail), so the #9 game sold a lot less.

It's overtracked, just accept it.

Top Ten Physical Retail Releases: February 2015

  1. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D (3DS)
  2. Evolve (Xbox One, PS4, PC)
  3. Dying Light (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
  4. Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
  5. Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
  6. NBA 2K15 (PS4, Xbox One, PS3, 360)
  7. Dragon Ball: Xenoverse (PS4, Xbox One, PS3, 360)
  8. Minecraft (360, PS3, Xbox One, PS4)
  9. The Order: 1886 (PS4)
  10. Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate (3DS)

Monster hunter sold 290k retail plus digital. If the order sold more in the US then that means it might not be over tracked and if it is on here the number would still represent retail plus digital.



Skullwaker on 14 March 2015
Gamer_of_the_Year said:
No, I'm saying Die Hard Fans of anything are more likely to buy digital that any other gamer because they know they'll probably always keep it and it's faster access to the title. I do this with all Street Fighter iterations. Secondly, die hard SONY fans bought the Order? Yeah, that makes sense considering that every great Sony exclusive sold like hotcakes the last 7 years (that's sarcasm btw, MS devotees clown PS users for exclusives not selling well as nauseum). Why couldn't it be die hard fans of highly stylized cinematic games with interesting stories and gameplay (ie ME!) or die hard graphics whores bought the Order? Food for thought

I don't think that's necessarily the truth. The majority of the gaming population, even hard core fans, buy physical copies. Digital is becoming more popular, but it certainly hasn't surpassed the popularity of physical disks (at least, outside of PC). 

Also, MH4U had huge stock issues at launch so it actually did have high digital sales. 



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jlmurph2 on 14 March 2015
Kerotan said:
We know the order sold more than monster hunter in npd. MH sold 290k digital plus retail. You'd imagine the digital sales are not that high, maybe 30k. So that would mean the order sold over 260k retail. So vgchartz number for the US is likely very close to the retail plus digital sales. Meaning their 560k WW week one number is likely very close to the actual number WW when you include digital.

Estimating 400k first week WW is way off.


Weren't you in the NPD thread? All you have to do is read the first page



Samus Aran on 14 March 2015
Kerotan said:
We know the order sold more than monster hunter in npd. MH sold 290k digital plus retail. You'd imagine the digital sales are not that high, maybe 30k. So that would mean the order sold over 260k retail. So vgchartz number for the US is likely very close to the retail plus digital sales. Meaning their 560k WW week one number is likely very close to the actual number WW when you include digital.

Estimating 400k first week WW is way off.


You're just assuming digital sales of MH4U lmao.

Bolded: vgchartz does not track digital sales. Vgchartz has The Order at 320k in the US for the month February.



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Kerotan on 14 March 2015
jlmurph2 said:
Gamer_of_the_Year said:

 


Do you even realize how pathetically weak your hypothesis is? lol

I can turn your tragically flaw logic against you. Couldn't it be surmised that maybe MHU just had piss poor digital sales and um excuse me but uh without having the totals for the number 8th spot game you CANNOT say the order did less than 290k. Makes no sense. Why? Glad you asked: BECAUSE MHU WAS BELOW IT AT 10 ON THE TOP 10 LIST!! lol 

The Order sold around 200k for February's NPD. 


If the game below it sold 290k how is that possible? 



Samus Aran on 14 March 2015
Kerotan said:
jlmurph2 said:

The Order sold around 200k for February's NPD. 


If the game below it sold 290k how is that possible? 

That's including digital sales. MH4U had stock issues at launch, so digital sales weren't low.



Kerotan on 14 March 2015
jlmurph2 said:
Kerotan said:
We know the order sold more than monster hunter in npd. MH sold 290k digital plus retail. You'd imagine the digital sales are not that high, maybe 30k. So that would mean the order sold over 260k retail. So vgchartz number for the US is likely very close to the retail plus digital sales. Meaning their 560k WW week one number is likely very close to the actual number WW when you include digital.

Estimating 400k first week WW is way off.


Weren't you in the NPD thread? All you have to do is read the first page

Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate - 290k (including digital sales)
The Order: 1886 > 200k

 

It says over 200k retail only.  

The game below it is confirmed as selling 290k retail plus digital.  Is it not very possible that the other sold very similar if not more when you include digital? 



jlmurph2 on 14 March 2015
Kerotan said:
jlmurph2 said:

The Order sold around 200k for February's NPD. 


If the game below it sold 290k how is that possible? 


The digital sales of MH4U were at least 90k.



Kerotan on 14 March 2015
Samus Aran said:
Kerotan said:
We know the order sold more than monster hunter in npd. MH sold 290k digital plus retail. You'd imagine the digital sales are not that high, maybe 30k. So that would mean the order sold over 260k retail. So vgchartz number for the US is likely very close to the retail plus digital sales. Meaning their 560k WW week one number is likely very close to the actual number WW when you include digital.

Estimating 400k first week WW is way off.


You're just assuming digital sales of MH4U lmao.

Bolded: vgchartz does not track digital sales. Vgchartz has The Order at 320k in the US for the month February.

Yeah and digital sales are relevant to the guy who made this thread.  It's not like he's gonna exclude the sales just because they are digital.  Ps4 has a much higher digital attach rate than the 3ds so it's possible that the 3ds caught up if they'd stock issues.  The ratings from buyers on the US store certainly suggests a pretty decent digital launch.