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jlmurph2 on 14 March 2015
Gamer_of_the_Year said:
Samus Aran said:

The Order sold similar to MH4U in the US for the month February (290k copies).

2 Things:

1) What would that have to do with WORLDWIDE TOTALS being at least 550k?! 

2) That statement is not official numbers this not proof of anything. Proof what you're saying with something documented.

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Skullwaker on 14 March 2015
Gamer_of_the_Year said:
DBZ won't come close to the over 600,000k the Order sold in its first week in PHYSICAL copies though. It's digital ranking is clearly from die hard Dragon Ball Z fans. Comparison is moot.

As opposed to die hard Sony fans buying The Order? Are you trying to say that die hard DBZ fans wouldn't buy physical copies?



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Gamer_of_the_Year on 14 March 2015

 

Samus Aran said:
Gamer_of_the_Year said:

2 Things:

1) What would that have to do with WORLDWIDE TOTALS being at least 550k?! 

2) That statement is not official numbers this not proof of anything. Proof what you're saying with something documented.

Nintendo said MH4U sold 290k copies in the US (retail + digital).

MH4U is #10 in the NPD ranking while The Order is #9. NPD doesn't track digital sales usually, so The Order sold less than 290k in the US for the month February. It's overtracked in the US on vgchartz or the game has no legs at all.


Do you even realize how pathetically weak your hypothesis is? lol

I can turn your tragically flaw logic against you. Couldn't it be surmised that maybe MHU just had piss poor digital sales and um excuse me but uh without having the totals for the number 8th spot game you CANNOT say the order did less than 290k. Makes no sense. Why? Glad you asked: BECAUSE MHU WAS BELOW IT AT 10 ON THE TOP 10 LIST!! lol 



Gamer_of_the_Year on 14 March 2015
Skullwaker said:
Gamer_of_the_Year said:
DBZ won't come close to the over 600,000k the Order sold in its first week in PHYSICAL copies though. It's digital ranking is clearly from die hard Dragon Ball Z fans. Comparison is moot.

As opposed to die hard Sony fans buying The Order? Are you trying to say that die hard DBZ fans wouldn't buy physical copies?

No, I'm saying Die Hard Fans of anything are more likely to buy digital than any other gamer because they know they'll probably always keep it and it's faster access to the title. I do this with all Street Fighter iterations. Secondly, die hard SONY fans bought the Order? Yeah, that makes sense considering that every great Sony exclusive sold like hotcakes the last 7 years (that's sarcasm btw, MS devotees clown PS users for exclusives not selling well ad nauseum). Why couldn't it be die hard fans of highly stylized cinematic games with interesting stories and gameplay (ie ME!) or die hard graphics whores bought the Order? Food for thought.



Kerotan on 14 March 2015
jlmurph2 said:
Kerotan said:


I can get you the review numbers as I bought it digitally from the USA store.  Will give an idea of sales. 


No need considering I didn't ask. Its lower than Dying Light, Evolve and Dragonball Z on the digital sales list according to a recent thread. And DBZ came out on the 24th. 


They're relevant.  Over 15k ratings from buyers on the USA store.  Most people don't rate their product after they buy. That would suggest 60k digital from the USA store alone.  It may have done less than 600K WW week one but it is a lot closer when you add digital.  



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jlmurph2 on 14 March 2015
Gamer_of_the_Year said:

 

Samus Aran said:

Nintendo said MH4U sold 290k copies in the US (retail + digital).

MH4U is #10 in the NPD ranking while The Order is #9. NPD doesn't track digital sales usually, so The Order sold less than 290k in the US for the month February. It's overtracked in the US on vgchartz or the game has no legs at all.


Do you even realize how pathetically weak your hypothesis is? lol

I can turn your tragically flaw logic against you. Couldn't it be surmised that maybe MHU just had piss poor digital sales and um excuse me but uh without having the totals for the number 8th spot game you CANNOT say the order did less than 290k. Makes no sense. Why? Glad you asked: BECAUSE MHU WAS BELOW IT AT 10 ON THE TOP 10 LIST!! lol 

The Order sold around 200k for February's NPD. 



Samus Aran on 14 March 2015
Gamer_of_the_Year said:

 

Samus Aran said:

Nintendo said MH4U sold 290k copies in the US (retail + digital).

MH4U is #10 in the NPD ranking while The Order is #9. NPD doesn't track digital sales usually, so The Order sold less than 290k in the US for the month February. It's overtracked in the US on vgchartz or the game has no legs at all.


Do you even realize how pathetically weak your hypothesis is? lol

I can turn your tragically flaw logic against you. Couldn't it be surmised that maybe MHU just had piss poor digital sales and um excuse me but uh without having the totals for the number 8th spot game you CANNOT say the order did less than 290k. Makes no sense. Why? Glad you asked: BECAUSE MHU WAS BELOW IT AT 10 ON THE TOP 10 LIST!! lol 

The #1 game sold 515k copies (digital plus retail), so the #9 game sold a lot less.

It's overtracked, just accept it.

Top Ten Physical Retail Releases: February 2015

  1. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D (3DS)
  2. Evolve (Xbox One, PS4, PC)
  3. Dying Light (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
  4. Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
  5. Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
  6. NBA 2K15 (PS4, Xbox One, PS3, 360)
  7. Dragon Ball: Xenoverse (PS4, Xbox One, PS3, 360)
  8. Minecraft (360, PS3, Xbox One, PS4)
  9. The Order: 1886 (PS4)
  10. Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate (3DS)


Gamer_of_the_Year on 14 March 2015
jlmurph2 said:
Gamer_of_the_Year said:

 


Do you even realize how pathetically weak your hypothesis is? lol

I can turn your tragically flaw logic against you. Couldn't it be surmised that maybe MHU just had piss poor digital sales and um excuse me but uh without having the totals for the number 8th spot game you CANNOT say the order did less than 290k. Makes no sense. Why? Glad you asked: BECAUSE MHU WAS BELOW IT AT 10 ON THE TOP 10 LIST!! lol 

The Order sold around 200k for February's NPD. 

Proof? You do realize that just because you keep saying something like a tick doesn't make it true right? 



Gamer_of_the_Year on 14 March 2015
Samus Aran said:
Gamer_of_the_Year said:

 


Do you even realize how pathetically weak your hypothesis is? lol

I can turn your tragically flaw logic against you. Couldn't it be surmised that maybe MHU just had piss poor digital sales and um excuse me but uh without having the totals for the number 8th spot game you CANNOT say the order did less than 290k. Makes no sense. Why? Glad you asked: BECAUSE MHU WAS BELOW IT AT 10 ON THE TOP 10 LIST!! lol 

The #1 game sold 515k copies (digital plus retail), so the #9 game sold a lot less.

It's overtracked, just accept it.

Proof?



Kerotan on 14 March 2015

We know the order sold more than monster hunter in npd. MH sold 290k digital plus retail. You'd imagine the digital sales are not that high, maybe 30k. So that would mean the order sold over 260k retail. So vgchartz number for the US is likely very close to the retail plus digital sales. Meaning their 560k WW week one number is likely very close to the actual number WW when you include digital.

Estimating 400k first week WW is way off.