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supermariogalaxy said:

Like many other people said here, soccer is TOO slow-paced...It is fun to play, but not to watch...I mean when Eli Manning escaped that sack in the Super Bowl everyone went crazy....Can you do something that thrilling in soccer other than scoring an awesome goal???? In basketball, when someone dunks, everyone goes wild....Now, if soccer had a few less rules..(lets say you could use your hands or your feet)...it would be more "actioney" and captivating..

Look at this picture...Can you create this much excitement in soccer?:

 

 

 


You mean like Gaelic football?

I'm not sure posting a picture of some dude with a ball in his hand is going to create much excitement for anyone who doesn't already like basketball. Could have been at the end of the greatest play ever, still not gonna excite me. Likewise i'm sure I could show you a video of cristiano ronaldo doing his thing, and you would find it boring.

I suppose there isn't much point in trying to convince someone what you think is exciting is what they should find exciting. 



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CaptainPrefrences said:
Dianko said:
yog-sothot said:
mmmh... some people here seem to say

football = USA
soccer = Europe

but the truth is more like

football = USA
soccer = Europe, Africa, Asia, South and Central America, Antartic (yup)

Actually, I this was not an american website, I would not even use the word "soccer" as everywhere else in the world we call it "football" and we call your football "american football" (you follow ?)

Beside that, I think the arguments of low score and difficulty to put commercials are quite good. The cultural difference too : I think american people usually don't like it when they are not the ones who spread their own culture around the world so they don't easily accept what's coming from other countries (metric system, movies, food and, here we come, soccer)

Hmmm, you're not entirely right on those points. For one thing, I know for sure that in Japan the sport is also called Soccer.

As far as Americans not accepting others cultures, are you serious? It definitely matters where you come from, but in the big cities it's a fucking smorgasboard of different cultures. As far as being accepting of other cultures, America is probably one of the most accepting (natually, since we have the highest rate of immigrants coming in, now at over 10% of our population). Especially in the food aspect. Tortillas are now more popular than bagels, english muffins and pitas in the US. When it comes to food, it's hard to argue that Americans aren't open minded.

Also, alot of your points are based on presumptions about Americans. For one thing, as it has been mentioned already, soccer/football has one of the highest levels of participation in terms of people playing it. It just hasn't expanded as a sport to watch for a number of reasons. For one, our best players either go to other sports or go play in Europe. We don't have an entrenched soccer/football culture with regional rivalries that have been going on for decades. It's hard to just come in and say "hey, you guys play the sport, now start watching the Galaxy play", and have people care. In contrast to this, you can see historical rivalries play a large part in turn out in alot of college sports in America. The MLS level of play isn't high enough compared to other professional sports in the US. Also, I hate to say this as an American, but American commentators are the absolute worst when it comes to this sport.

Some other reasons that I think keep soccer from being big is an American desire to see a game to win or loss. Baseball, Football, Hockey, Basketball all play to a definitive conclusion. Soccer does as well, but it pisses me off when I watch a friendly and it ends in a tie (most recently, US vs. Mexico's 2 - 2 tie). The lack of advertising time is more of an issue with douchy corporations than with the desire of the average American. Trust me, we are fucking sick of all the advertisements that break the flow of shows and sports.

But, we are getting better. If it wasn't for the dirty tactics and impressive acting ability of the Italian team (which they took all the way to the final match), we may have beaten them in the 2006 World Cup. Over the last decade, we have dominated Mexico, whereas before the best we could hope against them was that they would be kind enough to lube up before raping us. And with the high level of Latin American migration and what is most certainly going to be a high level of mixing that will arise from it, there is going to be a greater cultural attachment to the sport in the coming decades, which the MLS is in a good place to capitalize on now that a league has been set up.


i have to disagree with you and agree with you

again i will say, i watch arsenal vs wigan and it was 0 0 but it was a very very very exciting game. teh amount of saves last minute saves, shots on goal, and corners in that match was amazing. i hate when people say its a boaring game cuz they tied 2-2. i swear the only time americans watch soccer is in a penalty shootout.

but i have to agree wthi you on the italy thing. they are a bunch of filthy fucking cheaters and usa deserved to win that match. they will do what ever it takes to win liek dive to get free kicks and penaltys ( vs australia), say things about peopels moms (zidane) and fix matches ( ac milan fiorentina and juventus). thats why i was so fucking happy and i ran around my house when arsenal beat ac milan.


 I should say that I didn't dislike the game because it was tied, merely disappointed that there wasn't a clear cut win or loss because 1) A lot of shit talking between my Mexican and American housemates and 2) a bet on a gram of pot that depended on a win or loss by either team. But in general, I think Americans are accustomed to having a clear cut distinction between winner and loser, and gets annoyed because they feel that ending on a tie is anti-climatic.



Soccer was not in any of the public schools as a competivie sport that I attended as a youth (Houston, Texas).

There is a sports radio guy here in the Northwest, and he is hilarious to listen to when he starts his rants on soccer. His premise always seems to center around the idea of "soccer is for the 5' 6" guys who weren't big and strong enough to play football, basket ball, or baseball.

He is especially funny when people call in about the U.S. soccer world cup teams. Callers try and defend our little 5' 6" forwards with the argument that they are talented. The radio hosts chimes in with so are the European players, but they are also 6' 6" and so on.

His basic argument is right as far as I'm concened. In the U.S. the biggest strongest guys go the the NFL, NBA and MLB; soccer picks up the leftovers.



No one prefers tied games, because everyone would prefer one of the teams to win.

However that has no bearing on whether the match is exciting to watch. When I'm watching two teams compete that I don't care about and they play on equal footing, I'd feel a tie is deserved completely.

And in things like quarter/semi/finals of tournaments there aren't ties.



fagarcia75 said:
Soccer was not in any of the public schools as a competivie sport that I attended as a youth (Houston, Texas).

There is a sports radio guy here in the Northwest, and he is hilarious to listen to when he starts his rants on soccer. His premise always seems to center around the idea of "soccer is for the 5' 6" guys who weren't big and strong enough to play football, basket ball, or baseball.

He is especially funny when people call in about the U.S. soccer world cup teams. Callers try and defend our little 5' 6" forwards with the argument that they are talented. The radio hosts chimes in with so are the European players, but they are also 6' 6" and so on.

His basic argument is right as far as I'm concened. In the U.S. the biggest strongest guys go the the NFL, NBA and MLB; soccer picks up the leftovers.

 You seriously never played soccer in school? I played it in middle school and high school, and alot of indoor play at my university. Almost everyone I know has played some soccer, especially at middle school or in leagues when they were kids (regardless of gender).



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SeriousWB said:
No one prefers tied games, because everyone would prefer one of the teams to win.

However that has no bearing on whether the match is exciting to watch. When I'm watching two teams compete that I don't care about and they play on equal footing, I'd feel a tie is deserved completely.

And in things like quarter/semi/finals of tournaments there aren't ties.

 Keep in mind that alot of the exciting games with big names will be frienlies in America. International friendlies or a big European team like Chelsea against the Galaxy or other MLS teams. The highest profiles matches outside of big international tournaments that get picked by ESPN are friendlies that can end in a tie. The only time I could consistently watch high quality soccer was when I had Fox Soccer Channel and Gol TV, and those cost extra to get. Otherwise, I might get lucky on one of the Spanish channels, but since I don't speak it, it kind of sucks.



@ mrstickball

i would post some pics, put som1 tell me how? im kind of a newb.

do you copy and paste?



Dianko said:
SeriousWB said:
No one prefers tied games, because everyone would prefer one of the teams to win.

However that has no bearing on whether the match is exciting to watch. When I'm watching two teams compete that I don't care about and they play on equal footing, I'd feel a tie is deserved completely.

And in things like quarter/semi/finals of tournaments there aren't ties.

Keep in mind that alot of the exciting games with big names will be frienlies in America. International friendlies or a big European team like Chelsea against the Galaxy or other MLS teams. The highest profiles matches outside of big international tournaments that get picked by ESPN are friendlies that can end in a tie. The only time I could consistently watch high quality soccer was when I had Fox Soccer Channel and Gol TV, and those cost extra to get. Otherwise, I might get lucky on one of the Spanish channels, but since I don't speak it, it kind of sucks.


 yea man i know. the only soccer i watch is on saturday morning on sportsnet and they only show 1 matc. then i wtahc highlights at half time of the other ones.

fsc and gol tv showd a lot of good soccer along with other channels but they cost extra to get. and my satelite broke so i dnt get em anymore. i guess thats what i get for living in canada.

but spanish commentators r the best dude! specially when they say "gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllll for like 2 mins. 



Dianko said:
SeriousWB said:
No one prefers tied games, because everyone would prefer one of the teams to win.

However that has no bearing on whether the match is exciting to watch. When I'm watching two teams compete that I don't care about and they play on equal footing, I'd feel a tie is deserved completely.

And in things like quarter/semi/finals of tournaments there aren't ties.

 Keep in mind that alot of the exciting games with big names will be frienlies in America. International friendlies or a big European team like Chelsea against the Galaxy or other MLS teams. The highest profiles matches outside of big international tournaments that get picked by ESPN are friendlies that can end in a tie. The only time I could consistently watch high quality soccer was when I had Fox Soccer Channel and Gol TV, and those cost extra to get. Otherwise, I might get lucky on one of the Spanish channels, but since I don't speak it, it kind of sucks.


That sucks, but it's the same over here about watching American sports.  Without paying for Sky I have to watch random games starting after midnight on Channel 5 (with no control over which sport it would be).



I think its mostly because Soocer isn't as interesting to watch if your not into it.

In Europe kids are raised playing Soccer from a very young age and its already a very popular sport there. In the United States it is not so much and a large number of people are not very familiar with the sport so find it boring.

It's just a different culture.



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