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pokoko said:
PwerlvlAmy said:

Actually incorrect. When they were bringing out Wind Waker HD, people cried omg nintendo rehash,remaking the same games!

Then suddenly when third parties start re-releasing the same games over and over for XB1/PS4, it became justified.

I find it hilarious. Wish gamers(of all fanbases) would stop being so damn hypocritical lol

Your recollection seems to be off.  That's not even close to being where the complaining started.  Not by a long shot.  The noise started last gen with releases like the Metal Gear Solid Collection, The Silent Hill Collection, and the God of War Collection.  Sony began a "Classics HD" line, which some people seemed to have a problem with.  Then they announced a "PSP Remaster" series for the Vita and the criticism ramped up even more.  

If there was any hate for WWHD, besides from Nintendo fans themselves, then it was mostly retaliatory.

I wasn't a frequent poster back then so hadn't thought of the HD collections. Did people really complain about those? I can vaguely understand someone disliking single game remasters/remakes (if they're consistent with the opinion), but what's there to hate about collections? Most of them don't fit with any of the complaints people try to make against standard remasters.



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Zekkyou said:
pokoko said:

Your recollection seems to be off.  That's not even close to being where the complaining started.  Not by a long shot.  The noise started last gen with releases like the Metal Gear Solid Collection, The Silent Hill Collection, and the God of War Collection.  Sony began a "Classics HD" line, which some people seemed to have a problem with.  Then they announced a "PSP Remaster" series for the Vita and the criticism ramped up even more.  

If there was any hate for WWHD, besides from Nintendo fans themselves, then it was mostly retaliatory.

I wasn't a frequent poster back then so hadn't thought of the HD collections. Did people really complain about those? I can vaguely understand someone disliking single game remasters/remakes (if they're consistent with the opinion), but what's there to hate about collections? Most of them don't fit with any of the complaints people try to make against standard remasters.

I've never understood it myself, either, but there was a fair amount of negativity.  Sony left off backwards compatiblity on purpose, they're forcing people to rebuy games, they're wasting time on ports instead of new games, they're doing this because the PS3 has no new games, they're looking for a quick cash-in, they're money-hatting publishers ... basically what you'd expect with people grasping at straws.  Silent Hill and MGS had a ton of heat, especially, as did the PSP GoW collection.  Because OMG PORTS, I guess.

Personally, I can't understand people getting bent out of shape because they have more choices.  Makes no sense to me.



pokoko said:
Zekkyou said:

I wasn't a frequent poster back then so hadn't thought of the HD collections. Did people really complain about those? I can vaguely understand someone disliking single game remasters/remakes (if they're consistent with the opinion), but what's there to hate about collections? Most of them don't fit with any of the complaints people try to make against standard remasters.

I've never understood it myself, either, but there was a fair amount of negativity.  Sony left off backwards compatiblity on purpose, they're forcing people to rebuy games, they're wasting time on ports instead of new games, they're doing this because the PS3 has no new games, they're looking for a quick cash-in, they're money-hatting publishers ... basically what you'd expect with people grasping at straws.  Silent Hill and MGS had a ton of heat, especially, as did the PSP GoW collection.  Because OMG PORTS, I guess.

Personally, I can't understand people getting bent out of shape because they have more choices.  Makes no sense to me.

I can sympathize with that 2nd one. Sony literally broke into my house a few years ago and told me they'd kill me and my pet hamster if i didn't buy a copy of the GOW collection. It was terrifying. I went and bought 6 copies just to be safe.

But yeah, i find it all pretty difficult to understand. Though i'd probably be much more tolerant of people disliking them if they maintained that opinion across all titles, not just those they have no interest in.



lol so nintendo is now suddenly the victim of unwarranted hate after their fans have been hopping into every tlou remastered thread, for example(and this obviously is not the only case), to berate sony for being so greedy as to rob their fans of their hard earned money

all while nintendo has also been releasing games like wind waker hd and majora's mask and no no one was hating on nintendo for this because obviously to any sensible person it is only a problem when there is a lack of new games to play... which is more of a problem for nintendo's platform ironically

the thing i find most amusing though is that if we look at the actual games lists the ps4 and xbox have by leaps and bounds more new games per year than the wii u could hope to have and yet we are still getting threads like this one

it amazes me lol



Zekkyou said:
pokoko said:

I've never understood it myself, either, but there was a fair amount of negativity.  Sony left off backwards compatiblity on purpose, they're forcing people to rebuy games, they're wasting time on ports instead of new games, they're doing this because the PS3 has no new games, they're looking for a quick cash-in, they're money-hatting publishers ... basically what you'd expect with people grasping at straws.  Silent Hill and MGS had a ton of heat, especially, as did the PSP GoW collection.  Because OMG PORTS, I guess.

Personally, I can't understand people getting bent out of shape because they have more choices.  Makes no sense to me.

I can sympathize with that 2nd one. Sony literally broke into my house a few years ago and told me they'd kill me and my pet hamster if i didn't buy a copy of the GOW collection. It was terrifying. I went and bought 6 copies just to be safe.

But yeah, i find it all pretty difficult to understand. Though i'd probably be much more tolerant of people disliking them if they maintained that opinion across all titles, not just those they have no interest in.

Even the hamster?  When will you stop the madness, Sony?  With tactics like these, it's no wonder people are against ports.



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I never played it so ill pick it up



PwerlvlAmy said:
I3LuEI3omI3eR said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
its the generation of ports

Never a truer statement said in this forum.

Hence why I feel Nintendo should take adavntage and remake ALL THEIR CLASSICS!


Nintendo would get slammed for doing that because they arent allowed to do! its ok only for others to :O

 Mario and zelda havet run @30 frames last gen, thats the difference their games dont need remasters



o_O.Q said:
lol so nintendo is now suddenly the victim of unwarranted hate after their fans have been hopping into every tlou remastered thread, for example(and this obviously is not the only case), to berate sony for being so greedy as to rob their fans of their hard earned money

all while nintendo has also been releasing games like wind waker hd and majora's mask and no no one was hating on nintendo for this because obviously to any sensible person it is only a problem when there is a lack of new games to play... which is more of a problem for nintendo's platform ironically

the thing i find most amusing though is that if we look at the actual games lists the ps4 and xbox have by leaps and bounds more new games per year than the wii u could hope to have and yet we are still getting threads like this one

it amazes me lol

If you said had leaps and bounds more ports and remasters then I'd agree. But I'll leave at that,for this particular topic though. Don't want to turn into a huge fight over ports and remasters. I've said my piece xD

you guys have it :O

 

 



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Ruler said:

 Mario and zelda havet run @30 frames last gen, thats the difference their games dont need remasters


You know even Zelda: WW HD on Wii U only runs at 30fps right?

Would be nice to have the Mario Galaxy games in HD.



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RenCutypoison said:

But the artstyle required high res textures and nice particule effects to show its full potential, the game wouldn't have looked half as good if they valued 60fps over everything else.


The game doesn't even look good, though. DMC4 still looks better and it released at 60fps years earlier.