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Yes, it's likely. I expect a Wii U price cut this year, and the New 3DS should help boost sales.



    

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zorg1000 said:
FromDK said:
zorg1000 said:
Probably down a little bit.

N3DS will help slow down the decline but it won't stop it. It sold roughly 3 million in each major region, this year more like 2.5 million in each with a few 100k in others, 7.5-8 million worldwide is my guess.

As for Wii U, it could go either way. A price cut+more consistant release schedule could see sales increase or just prevent a decline, overall sales will be similar to 2014, 3.5 million give or take a few 100k.

Combined I think they will sell around 11-12 million.

You do realize.. that most of the "we follow game news and want the best graphic" have allready enteret the gen, and from now on.. most of the sale will come from more casual gamers..?

And.. they do not look at "release schedule" but whats allready out..?

Futhermore.. a lot of them will be parents who buys for boy/girl..?

You do realize.........none of that is relevant?

Honestly, how do any of those points contradict what I said?

That we will start seeing the more casual gamer in 2015 is totally relevant..

And that theere will be a lot more parents who buy a console for kids is also totally relevant (when we talk Nintendo sales)

But the point of my post was that a "consistant release schedule" is not as important as whats allready out, when it comes to new adobters from now on..



Personally, I believe that the 3DS will be down by 10-15% yoy despite the N3DS, we cannot simply look at handheld crazed Japan and expect the same to happen globally. I also believe that the Wii U will see a similar deline, the summer months will be especially brutal with no MK this year to boost sales and in keeping with my still-going theory; a price cut won't do all that much for overall hardware sales longterm for the Wii U.



tak13 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
3DS will be down despite the N3DS
Wii U will be up due to a price cut & library variety

Overall, I expect Nintendo to be down HW-wise

Then you woke up dear sound of rain...Rationalize it!

Why ignoring that it stopped a 50% decline and surpassed dsi sales in the same time frame in Japan?

The underestimation of New 3ds/xl is strong here...

Not sure what argument you're making with Japan.  The 3DS was still down YoY after the new 3DS came out.  It was down by a lot less than the rest of the year, but it was still down.  This year also doesn't seem to have anywhere near the heavy hitters that last year did, especially for Japan.  At least for what is announced so far.

I'm also seeing 1,661,834 for the DSi in its first 14 weeks versus 1,397,822 for the new 3DS in 14 weeks.



Mummelmann said:
Personally, I believe that the 3DS will be down by 10-15% yoy despite the N3DS, we cannot simply look at handheld crazed Japan and expect the same to happen globally. I also believe that the Wii U will see a similar deline, the summer months will be especially brutal with no MK this year to boost sales and in keeping with my still-going theory; a price cut won't do all that much for overall hardware sales longterm for the Wii U.


Ya that's pretty much what I think. New revision for 3DS and price cut for Wii U along with a nice lineup of exclusives for both will help prevent sales from dropping too much but won't stop it completely. Best case scenario would be YoY sales being flat for both devices but that's unlikely, down 10-15% puts them around 8 million and 3 million.



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Zorg1000..

Do you see the light.. Becourse i take your.. not answering what you asked.. and continuing to talk WiiU's sales potential "down" in this tread.. a bit strange.. :)






FromDK said:
Soleron said:

I think Wii U will be down a lot, and 3DS will be flat.

Zelda, Splatoon and Star Fox have limited appeal to the non-Wii U owner compared to Smash and Mario Kart. In particular I think Star Fox's sales are going to prove past-Nintendo right about it not being worth making.

Yes MK8 and smash will be bigger reaosons than splatoon, zelda, mariomaker and starfox.. for people to get a WiiU in 2015..

It dosen't change the fact, that WiiU has an "insane" catalog for the more casual gamer.. (you know..  the big part of the +230 mill owners missing from last gen)

ONT:

I think 3DS will be up a lot this year.. how much we have to see.. but i think N3DS will do the same for 3DS, as DSi did for DS

WiiU will also be up (a lot i think) the "should we buy the new Nintendo" are only going up..  and it just beat it's own record in dec. 2014.. (and that was with no pricecut or cristmas deals) So the numbers are in fact backing this up to.

My prediction is... Nintendo 2014 x2 < 2015

So you expect more than 26 million between the Wii U and 3DS this year?  How much more and how will that figure be divided between the systems?  You know 3DS can match its peak year, the Wii U can triple in sales, and that would still fall short of your prediction.

"but i think N3DS will do the same for 3DS, as DSi did for DS"

You think the 3DS will be down slightly this year?  Because that's what happened to the DS the year the DSi came out in the west.  That doesn't really fit with your expectation for the 3DS to be up a lot this year.

As for the Wii U, I'm not sure what evidence there is that parents will suddenly start buying it in droves in 2015.  Its own record in December in the US was not that impressive, and it didn't beat it by all that much.  In Japan, over the same time period, it was down by nearly twice as much as it was up in the US.  So what do those numbers back up?



Yakuzaice said:
FromDK said:
Soleron said:

I think Wii U will be down a lot, and 3DS will be flat.

Zelda, Splatoon and Star Fox have limited appeal to the non-Wii U owner compared to Smash and Mario Kart. In particular I think Star Fox's sales are going to prove past-Nintendo right about it not being worth making.

Yes MK8 and smash will be bigger reaosons than splatoon, zelda, mariomaker and starfox.. for people to get a WiiU in 2015..

It dosen't change the fact, that WiiU has an "insane" catalog for the more casual gamer.. (you know..  the big part of the +230 mill owners missing from last gen)

ONT:

I think 3DS will be up a lot this year.. how much we have to see.. but i think N3DS will do the same for 3DS, as DSi did for DS

WiiU will also be up (a lot i think) the "should we buy the new Nintendo" are only going up..  and it just beat it's own record in dec. 2014.. (and that was with no pricecut or cristmas deals) So the numbers are in fact backing this up to.

My prediction is... Nintendo 2014 x2 < 2015

So you expect more than 26 million between the Wii U and 3DS this year?  How much more and how will that figure be divided between the systems?  You know 3DS can match its peak year, the Wii U can triple in sales, and that would still fall short of your prediction.

"but i think N3DS will do the same for 3DS, as DSi did for DS"

You think the 3DS will be down slightly this year?  Because that's what happened to the DS the year the DSi came out in the west.  That doesn't really fit with your expectation for the 3DS to be up a lot this year.

As for the Wii U, I'm not sure what evidence there is that parents will suddenly start buying it in droves in 2015.  Its own record in December in the US was not that impressive, and it didn't beat it by all that much.  In Japan, over the same time period, it was down by nearly twice as much as it was up in the US.  So what do those numbers back up?

Yes i believe both 3DS and WiiU could double theire numbers from 2014..

Sorry.. I was to fast.. I meant offcourse DS Lite.. (it sold like 20 mill first year.. and that was a more than 100% increase)

And the numbers back up that WiiU is NOT in a decline 2013<2014.. And they did beat the record launch in dec (even without pricecut.. in us yes.. but still)

And for the WiiU.. I'm sure more "casuals" will get into the gen this year.. im also sure that a lot more parents will start buying "a 8 gen console" for theire kids.. that is offcourse not some i had links to.. but if you think about it.. it does make sense

So yes.. Double Nintendo hardware sales in 2015.. is what i truly believe.. and you can think otherwise.. no hame done :) 



FromDK said:
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And the numbers back up that WiiU is NOT in a decline 2013<2014.. And they did beat the record launch in dec (even without pricecut.. in us yes.. but still)

That was completely inevitable, due to Smash and Mario Kart. It's not really an achievement, when you compare the previous year's holiday releases.

Can you find any parents who believe the Wii U is next gen? In my experience non-gaming people still don't know it exists.



FromDK said:

Yes i believe both 3DS and WiiU could double theire numbers from 2014..

Sorry.. I was to fast.. I meant offcourse DS Lite.. (it sold like 20 mill first year.. and that was a more than 100% increase)

And the numbers back up that WiiU is NOT in a decline 2013<2014.. And they did beat the record launch in dec (even without pricecut.. in us yes.. but still)

And for the WiiU.. I'm sure more "casuals" will get into the gen this year.. im also sure that a lot more parents will start buying "a 8 gen console" for theire kids.. that is offcourse not some i had links to.. but if you think about it.. it does make sense

So yes.. Double Nintendo hardware sales in 2015.. is what i truly believe.. and you can think otherwise.. no hame done :) 

The DS was already up 41% YoY in the US before the DSL even came out.  In Japan the 3DS is either slightly up or slightly down in the first two weeks of the year depending on the tracker.  In comparison, the DS was up 71% in the comparable weeks of 2006.  The DS didn't come out until March 2005 in Europe, so you can't really make an appropriate YoY comparison there.

So the data from the US and Japan both indicate that the 3DS won't be seeing DSL style sales.  Then of course, there's the fact that the New 3DS is much more comparable to the DSi than the DSL.  Change to internal hardware, high price point, releasing late in life, etc.  The only reason I can see why you'd compare it to the DSL is you just want it to have that kind of sales boost.

I'm not sure how 2014 sales of the Wii U being greater than 2013 sales is proof that the Wii U will double in sales this year.  What record launch?  Are you just talking about a Wii U only record?  Being up 21% over last December in one country is hardly evidence that it will be up 100% worldwide in the next year.

Why will parents start buying Wii U's en masse this year?  What is so different now from a month ago that would motivate consumers to purchase it?  Are you expecting a price cut?  If so, when will it be and how much?  Will this double hardware sales be spread across the year or concentrated in specific months.  To put it into perspective, double June 2014 is more than the Wii U did in November.  I don't see how this parents and casuals argument makes any more sense today than a year ago.