Well, sure, Pandora's Tower was a lesser known title but so was Xenoblade and it had better VA than Pandora's tower. My point was that Nintendo's record isn't exactly smooth when it comes to VA. Yes, if it doesn't have VA, the sales are still fucked but it will be a less of a hit to their profits cause VA = extra work = extra money for something that may or may not have a good return on investment. And I doubt that putting VA in Zelda will attract anyone cause they would have to buy the wiiU first and there have been countless threads as to why people don't want to buy one regardless of what Nintendo does. Nintendo's best bet is to do what they have been doing which makes the fans happy and instead, leave something like VA to their next gen Zelda game. And again, its just the whole, is good enough for them good enough for us or do we want something better?

And I am pretty sure the reason that people are complaining about Zelda's presentation is cause they don't like the cartoony look it has rather than it having VA. They prefer realism and other hurr durr stuff. Heck, some of the even want multiplayer in a Zelda game so catering to those people is like catering to people that really wont buy the franchise no matter what. Again, Capcom and other companies tried to do the same like trying to cater to the Cod crowd and look at what happened to RE. And heck, Zelda U is a fully open world game and I am sure once it gets released, provided the game is excellent, the industry will take notice no matter what.

And VA isn't really the main thing that seperates those games from Zelda nor should Zelda try to compete with them in the wiiU by taking multiple risks like a big open world as well as VA. Leave the VA for the future and focus on gameplay for now. There is no reason to waste time and money on trying to implement VA when the sales at the end will be less anyway cause they are just putting in things that most fan's wont care about until they put it in and the result will be minimal gain.

Anyway, I think we talked enough and we will probably keep on going back and forth in the matter but I dont see either of us going anywhere with this. Ironically, if you look at my first post, I said that I wouldn't mind having VA if Link doesn't talk loll but I wouldn't mind either ways. The only reason we are even having this conversation is cause I replied to an user and another user replied to me whom I replied to and u replied to me which is pretty ehh. But yea, I got stuff to do so don't expect a reply after this.

Would someone say, "I found a mirror under the table?"

120 something posts? Ain't nobody got time for that. Still I'll just post my thoughts here nonetheless...

I feel that there isn't actually an end all argument on either side of this debate. Wanting or not wanting voice acting in a game like Zelda is very subjective. While I personally think not having voice acting is a part of Zelda's uniqueness and personality and the reading adds to the immersiveness. The OP does show that not everyone feels that way, but personally I don't really care just as people on the other side don't really care.

As a AAA title I believe that EVERY one of these games should have voice acting regardless. In fact I believe that it's almost an obligation on the developers part to do so and this has been a standard since LAST GENERATION. Hell, even non AAA games including some INDIES have voice acting too ...

For a pedigree like Zelda to not have voice acting in this day and age would be unsuitable. I'm fine with link being the silent protagonist however I think it's best that the series starts transitioning to voice acting in general as soon as possible ...

This right here sums up 90% of Nintendo's problems, and 100% of the things Nintendo's most hardcore fanboys do not seem to understand.

Vioce acting in most video games is a waste of time and money and locks the writing too early in production.

Zelda has been very successful with the childrens-book-approach, with close-ups and text displayed along-side until the player chooses to advance the story.

Voice acting would always add a pre-dictated time element to these moments, and potentially hurt their impact.

Voice acting also adds the whole debacle of whether text should be displayed alongside the spoken dialog, and whether the voice bits should be skippable mid-sentence, adding an amount of disjointedness to conversations do characters being cut short.

It may be obvious that I strongly oppose voice acting in video games unless very well written and acted, and also short and to the point and unskippable.

For the gameplay and mood driven game Nintendo makes, I have absolutely no desire to hear any of the characters speak, and I consider it, as I wrote to begin woth, a waste of time and money, and quite possibly detrimental to the quality of the final product, do to needing dialog locked earlier, with fewer options for adjustments as everything is coming together.

I don't think it's inexcusable to not have voice acting in Zelda. I don't necessarily agree that strong, story driven games need voice acting. It's part of the cinematisation of games, that we wanted the story telling methods from cinema in videogames.

I'm not dead set against voice acting in Zelda, I think that needs to be pointed out. I felt in Twilight Princess, at the time, the lack of voice acting held it back. But with Skyward Sword, the text dialogue felt more like an aesthetic choice than a design limitation--and I think that's down to how much more stylised Skyward Sword was.

Personally if there was voice acting, I'd prefer a foreign/Hylian language, particularly if the language was authentic and well thought out, and the voice actors instructed by dialect and pronunciation coaches, the way actors playing Elves were in Lord of the Rings. That could be even more expensive than just doing a normal dub, but given this is another stylised game, I'd prefer the voice acting be something unusual if it were in there, rather than an attempt to mirror the trend we see across the industry towards cinematisation, for want of a better term.

Even better, I'd love to see the story told in a completely different way. Minimum of text, minimum of dialogue, but I doubt that's going to happen. Hell, don't tell me the story, let me play the story.

If they actually do it well, then hell ya. Even if they have shitty voice acting, at least it's a step in the right direction and they can do better next time. There's a reason why we don't have silent movies anymore. Because most of the general population doesn't like reading (lol), but also because hearing dialogue is just better and more immersive.

Nope. I think the lack of voice acting gives Zelda part of its charm. I can imagine for myself how these characters speak and in that sense, it's pretty magical. It's like a book.

I will never understand why people would prefer grunts and groans with text instead of voice acting...