ChichiriMuyo said:
Astrodust said:
dtekdahl00 said: Bias exists either way. You're either labled a fool for dissenting the common view, or you're hailed for buying into an ideology thats not scientific |
There is no common view when it comes to global warming. It's not an issue like cigarettes cause cancer. The problem is that people are not educated on the issues and form oppinions. |
There is a goddamned concensus on the matter. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot or a liar, and anyone who rejects the idea outright is worse. Global Warming IS real and we DO have to fight it. |
You and others who support actions against global warming, have to understand that when people say
"Global warming is a myth!" ,
they shouldn't be taken literally, because what they're trying to express is that there is an agenda exaggerating the size and the risks with man-made global warming.
So, let's agree that there is a strong concensus that man-made global warming is a fact.
But then what? How big of a factor is the man-made part of the green house gas effect compared to natural reasons? Is there concensus on that? No.
And if and when there is concensus on how much man is contributing to the global warming trend we have, then what?
What are the consequences of the warming on the planet and on us? How many degrees will the global average temperature rise in 10, 30 and 50 years? How many meters will the ocean level rise, and in what time, and what will the consequences of that be on the US, the EU, the rest of the rich world, and the developing countries?
You don't have an idea, do you? No one has, and there are no facts about that, and certainly no concensus. But you have tons of all sorts of people almost hysterically crying "Global warming is a threat to mankind! We must act now! We aren't doing enough!" as if they had facts.
Stop this madness.