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Huo Lei has been in the video games business for over ten years. The 33-year-old has a shop in the Gulou area of Beijing, an area still snaked by the old alleyways that used to dominate the ancient capital.

After its release late in September on mainland China, the Xbox One sold over 100,000 units, a figure that eclipses the console's dismal launch in Japan. But since then the console has faced criticism from Chinese consumers, alongside government interference with its online video streaming partner.Microsoft has been the first foreign console maker to enter this new territory, its Xbox One the first ever console to be sold in mainstream electronics stores across the country.

It's a first-steps market in China and analysts are keenly watching how events unfold. Do western games such as Grand Theft Auto 5 and Call of Duty appeal to Chinese tastes? Will China, with its 1.3 billion people, become a potential pile of riches for console and game makers? Is Huo Lei worried that the official availability of Xbox One, and possibly the PS4, is going to dent his business?

Not at all, he says. "I'm not concerned. The official Xboxes have a lock so they can only play Chinese [region] games. I'm cheaper than the main stores." What's more, according to all the shopkeepers interviewed, the PS4 still appears to be vastly more popular than the Xbox One.

"The PS4 is the most popular now. But before, the Xbox 360 was more popular than the PS3 because you could download games for free", says Huo Lei.

Getting hold of a console is easy enough. Once you've got one you'll find the Chinese Xbox One has been locked into the Chinese language and inside the box paper cards are the QR codes with which to download games. There's a Chinese Xbox Live account to register with, though the Xbox Live store is pretty bare, with only 10 games available and the video streaming service disabled. According to unnamed sources, this is due to Microsoft's partner BesTV having trouble with government authorities taking another look at the service.

Console players are a very niche group compared to the number of PC gamers in China where online free-to-play games such as League of Legends are very popular. With consoles still to establish a mainstream presence, Microsoft's entry gives it the chance to make its Xbox brand synonymous with console gaming and living room entertainment.

The system itself costs ¥4299 RMB (£442) with Kinect, and without ¥3699 RMB (£380). This compares to ¥3600 RMB for a grey market PS4. Official games meanwhile range from ¥99 RMB to ¥249 RMB (£10 to £25). The initial outlay might be the biggest obstacle in trying to sell the console as most Chinese consumers will find it hard to square paying such prices for a luxury video games machine that sits at home.But Microsoft faces an uphill battle. "Xbox One won't have a good future because it won't have good games", says Wang Qiang, a seller of imported consoles. The official launch lineup has been notably weak, with titles such as Destiny and Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare missing due to Chinese authorities' stringent restrictions. Available games include Forza Motorsport 5, Kinect Sports Rivals, Zoo Tycoon, Neverwinter Online and Naughty Kitties - a locally developed title that's been likened to a game for mobile phones.

Tastes in console games have also changed. Huo Lei, the shopkeeper, says the most popular games now are the Call of Duty series. "Five years ago it was RPGs, now it's more like shooters, racing, sports games - games of shorter duration. We all started playing Japanese games, like Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, even though it was all in Japanese. Now we're more influenced by the US", says Huo.

So what about Sony in all of this? The PS4 is expected to launch in China in the near future, but Sony have yet to make an official announcement. Piers Harding-Rolls, a games analyst at IHS Technology, believes Sony will launch the PS4 before Chinese New Year (which will be in February in 2015).

"One interesting market dynamic", says Harding-Rolls, "is that both commercial partners -- BesTV with Microsoft and Shanghai Oriental Pearl Group (OPG) with Sony -- are actually part of the same media conglomerate, partly owned by the Chinese state. There is speculation that these two divisions might actually merge, with the result that both joint ventures will be operating from the same commercial entity".

It's speculated that Sony's launch delay could be due to the difficult approval process for games. Nintendo meanwhile are planning to launch a custom console specifically intended for the Chinese market. The Wii U, like other territories, has had limited popularity among customers, say the gray market sellers.

It remains to be seen whether Microsoft can jumpstart a mainstream acceptance of consoles. There is still a stigma attached to playing video games in China, where the culture is so focused on education and there's massive pressure on the young to succeed. This and the exorbitant entry costs means the likelihood of Chinese families buying one is unfavourable.

Consoles have been in China for over 20 years now, official or not. PC gamers, like South Korea or Germany, dominate China's gaming scene. Maybe console gaming will only ever be a niche in China - a niche in China however can be very large indeed. But until the PS4 officially arrives in China, we won't truly gauge whether this will be a full-blooded console war or just a duel on the sidelines.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-11-05-will-xbox-one-succeed-in-china



    

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"Most Chinese consumers will find it hard to square paying such prices for a luxury video games machine that sits at home"

Hmm, I wonder, will that mean that China will essentially have the same situation as Japan where handhelds will be very popular compared to consoles?



                  

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Ka-pi96 said:
Sounds like the Chinese government made sure consoles were dead there before they even arrived.

Yeah but I think PS4 will still do better there. Even people in China know about trends in other countries and seem to want a PS4 more than X1, at least according to that shop keeper interviewed. 



    

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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
"Most Chinese consumers will find it hard to square paying such prices for a luxury video games machine that sits at home"

Hmm, I wonder, will that mean that China will essentially have the same situation as Japan where handhelds will be very popular compared to consoles?

I don't think handhelds are allowed to be sold there. Smartphones are extremely popular in China though.



    

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A console not launched in the country more popular than one launched? Domination.



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MoHasanie said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
"Most Chinese consumers will find it hard to square paying such prices for a luxury video games machine that sits at home"

Hmm, I wonder, will that mean that China will essentially have the same situation as Japan where handhelds will be very popular compared to consoles?

I don't think handhelds are allowed to be sold there. Smartphones are extremely popular in China though.

Hmm, thats interesting, any idea why handhelds arent allowed? Cause I remember Nintendo releasing the DSi there which I believe got rebranded as the iQue



                  

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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Hmm, thats interesting, any idea why handhelds arent allowed? Cause I remember Nintendo releasing the DSi there which I believe got rebranded as the iQue

Actually I'm wrong. Nintendo is able to sell the 3DS in China because they have a partnership with iQue. The Vita isn't allowed to be sold there yet though. 



    

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ethomaz said:
A console not launched in the country more popular than one launched? Domination.

I still don't think the PS4 will do all that well in China, either, mainly because of China's restrictions. However, Sony does have more time to prepare for a Chinese launch and the PS4 does have a lot more exclusives coming out next year. If Sony launches the PS4 near Chinese New Years with a decent launch lineup and manage to get more games accepted down the line, the console might do decently well.



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"The Xbox 360 was more popular than the PS3 because you could download games for free"

Lol...so if it's not pirated, it's useless for chinese, that's it ? Okidokki.