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Qwark on 10 November 2014
CladInShadows said:
SlayerRondo said:
JazzB1987 said:
people should use the useful stuff from religion (you shall not steal etc) and ignore the fantasy.

Reading 10000000000000 billion year old texts and trying just to interpret it the wrong way is nonsensical.

I mean ever heard of chinese whispers? Everyone knows how bad the original message can fuck up with just 3 or 4 people. Now compare that to reiligion with 1 million people translating from different languages and dialects and then there is wars some of the text got lost and people tried to restaurate the lost stuff. Then some wannabee cool people added stuff just for the lulz and others didnt like some stuff that was written down centuries ago and so removed that etc

Religion is good but only if you just follow the "plausible/good/nice/ethical etc" rules.

A a counter point to what your saying, some might say that you have to take the good with the bad. If you honestly believe it's the word of god then how can you decide to ignore some parts and still claim to adhere to that faith?

While I agree with you 100% that people should disregard any text, religious or otherwise, that instructs them to act in what they consider an immoral way I don't know how to respond to the above other than saying "why believe any of it?".

One doesn't need to believe in the writings of the bible, or the quran, or the gospel of the flying spaghetti monster, to know that certain teachings make sense.  The ten commandments is a pretty decent place to start.  I think most "good" people can agree that there is very little wrong with those.  

I sure as hell am not religious. I don't believe what is written in any of those books. I would never let it run my life. But hidden in there beneath the smiting and the flooding are some good rules to live by.  It certainly isn't the worst thing to come about from religion.

Pretty bad that I do this after my previous comment, but oh well I am going down (tovhell) anyways so might as well make my time here worth it.

Most atheist people don't have a problem with (most) of the first ten commandments. (Since sex before marriage is a bit to much as a wedding costs almost 7.000 euro's down here, blaim people who would rather see another continent I dare you).

The commandments the douchebags in the vatican made up after that is what causes most problems, like no anticonception and no vaccins. The history of the Vatican trying to sabbotage science didn´t also make them very popular. That science is what we now percieved as common knowledge and let us not forget the pedophile crimes comitted by the so called men of god/the church in the Netherlands and other European country´s. 



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

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HollyGamer on 10 November 2014
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OP,

Why it's hard to have discussion because we live under avatar with anonymous identity

Your comment "Can you know my intentions or thoughts?" is a prove that it's hard to have a positive discussion in open forum like this, several troll will come and mocking both  religious person and create unnecessary debate.

Why i am saying you don't have qualification because the internet and social media full of liars and fake people, that's why Ahmad Deedat discussion is acceptable in front of people because he did it in general forum, watched by several people and the rule of discussion is clear.

well i can make a thread like this "Why Christmas is not mentioned on Bible ", but i refrain form making it , because it will hurt some feeling of my non Muslim friend.

Well you followed the general rule but you flame bait people in this article, and don't forget Religion is not just other general discussion. it's very sensitive discussion.

well you can claim, your idea it's right but you cannot claim your idea is supported by the evident  because we debate on the forum and you have to bring more evident by showing us old literature of old testament on Vatican that only some priest able to access on it .

Well a high  priest and reputable person  on Deedat discussion is unable to answer Ahmad Deedat question, how on the earth you will able to bring discussion on gaming forum like this Lol