Locked: Why Isaiah 29:12 Is Not A Prophecy of Muhammad

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Nintentacle on 10 November 2014

LurkerJ said:

Starting a thread means you have something to discuss. A declaration or not. Threads are started for discussion. I am not defending the OP. I am sick of people jumping in threads just to tell other people WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS FEAKIN GAMEZZ.

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Nintentacle on 10 November 2014

Qwark said:
Not to be a total dick or perceive it that way if it pleases you I don't care actually, this is a game (sales) related website I don't think many care or want to care, about something wrote in a non game related holy book.
So take this thread to somewhere else (preferably non game related site) where people do care.

Don't worry, I got a game-related thread comin' up.

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LurkerJ on 10 November 2014

Nintentacle said:

LurkerJ said:

Starting a thread means you have something to discuss. A declaration or not. Threads are started for discussion. I am not defending the OP. I am sick of people jumping in threads just to tell other people WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS FEAKIN GAMEZZ.

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HollyGamer on 10 November 2014

Well, OP for know i am just observe where the discussion will go, from the writing and the habit of OP. He just want to provoke discussion to intimidate normal Muslim who don't have enough knowledge to oppose his idea.

There is no meaning a religion discussion on forum (even on religion forum mediate by internet). Both people who questioned should come directly to the source and discussing the mater with the expert, and no one will troll and give unnecessary comment that lead unnecessary debate.

One thing for sure, OP is not worth enough to discuss religion mater in his state and unknown background, and also, me personally already suggest OP to go directly to Mosque but he doesn't take my suggestion and we have seen his true intention.

Moderator who is wise should lock this thread and ban permanently the person , because he had a lot ban lately under the same problem.

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Roma on 10 November 2014

Nintentacle said:

LurkerJ said:

Starting a thread means you have something to discuss. A declaration or not. Threads are started for discussion. I am not defending the OP. I am sick of people jumping in threads just to tell other people WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS FEAKIN GAMEZZ.

Same happened here: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=191933&page=1

Deedat isn't a vgc user. Google.

Actually, there is a user called Deedat. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/profile/57913/deedat/

and he seems to have traveled back in time :P

		R.I.P Mr Iwata :'(

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Nintentacle on 10 November 2014

HollyGamer said:
He just want to provoke discussion to intimidate normal Muslim who don't have enough knowledge to oppose his idea.

This is just not true. I am just showing that the claim that Isaiah 29:12 is not mentioning Muhammad is false. I put the proof for this right in the OP. Plus, who are you to determine what I am doing? Can you know my intentions or thoughts?

There is no meaning a religion discussion on forum (even on religion forum mediate by internet). Both people who questioned should come directly to the source and discussing the mater with the expert, and no one will troll and give unnecessary comment that lead unnecessary debate.

This is why there are sections that aren't specifically about gaming: So you can talk about stuff that isn't about games. Along with this, you don't need an expert to see why the stuff I put in the OP is true. No expert could possibly explain why men showed the book instead of an Angel, or why this is talking about Muhammad when it is about a curse on wicked people.

One thing for sure, OP is not worth enough to discuss religion mater in his state and unknown background, and also, me personally already suggest OP to go directly to Mosque but he doesn't take my suggestion and we have seen his true intention.

I do not have access to a Mosque at the moment. Along with that, I already gave undeniable proof why this specific claim (On Isaiah 29:12) is not true. If anyone does not believe me, they can look into the verses themself and decide for themselves.

Moderator who is wise should lock this thread and ban permanently the person , because he had a lot ban lately under the same problem.

I already showed why I am not breaking any guidelines in the OP.

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CladInShadows on 10 November 2014

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people should use the useful stuff from religion (you shall not steal etc) and ignore the fantasy.

Reading 10000000000000 billion year old texts and trying just to interpret it the wrong way is nonsensical.

I mean ever heard of chinese whispers? Everyone knows how bad the original message can fuck up with just 3 or 4 people. Now compare that to reiligion with 1 million people translating from different languages and dialects and then there is wars some of the text got lost and people tried to restaurate the lost stuff. Then some wannabee cool people added stuff just for the lulz and others didnt like some stuff that was written down centuries ago and so removed that etc

Religion is good but only if you just follow the "plausible/good/nice/ethical etc" rules.

A a counter point to what your saying, some might say that you have to take the good with the bad. If you honestly believe it's the word of god then how can you decide to ignore some parts and still claim to adhere to that faith?

While I agree with you 100% that people should disregard any text, religious or otherwise, that instructs them to act in what they consider an immoral way I don't know how to respond to the above other than saying "why believe any of it?".

One doesn't need to believe in the writings of the bible, or the quran, or the gospel of the flying spaghetti monster, to know that certain teachings make sense. The ten commandments is a pretty decent place to start. I think most "good" people can agree that there is very little wrong with those.

I sure as hell am not religious. I don't believe what is written in any of those books. I would never let it run my life. But hidden in there beneath the smiting and the flooding are some good rules to live by. It certainly isn't the worst thing to come about from religion.

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Nintentacle on 10 November 2014

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My cat is a prophet.

Does he fulfill Isaiah 29:12?

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Mr Khan on 10 November 2014

"I just got back from a ban about this but instead of discuss it with the moderator who banned me or any moderator i'm just going to make a thread just like the ones i got banned for and to hell with the consequences."

You get ONE thread per religion. This was made very clear and i believe those threads were left open. You could have gone back to them, but no. So, goodbye for a month. Next round is a permaban so get the hell with the program.