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Forums - Sales - PAL Charts: Week 9 2008

Xyrax on 03 March 2008

lol @ sonic and the secret rings being a year old and having longer legs than burnout paradise.

That'll teach you to remove the convenient Pause>Retry option you lamers.



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MikeB on 04 March 2008
FishyJoe said:
Have they stopped counting PS2 titles or are people just not buying PS2 games any more?

The PS2 still tops the home consoles with regard to budget games sold in the UK according to MCV/Chart Track's monthly report.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

MikeB on 04 March 2008
MikeB said:
@ Dallinor

The 360 has a 1 million lead on the PS3 in the UK.

Despite this there are more PS3 titles charting in the top 40 then there are 360 titles.

What is going on?


Probably it's not really 2:1 (we know the PS3 is slightly undertracked compared to Chart Track figures even after the big adjustment, maybe the 360 is a little overtracked).

Although not yet with similar gaps like in other European countries it's interesting to note various multi-platform titles for the PS3 have now started to outsell their 360 counterparts for week 9:

15 (15) [PS3] CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE
18 (14) [360] CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE

31 (23) [PS3] BURNOUT PARADISE
38 (29) [360] BURNOUT PARADISE

40 (26) [PS3] ASSASSIN'S CREED

The same seems to start happening in another 360 stronghold Australia (we know the PS3 is undertracked by VGChartz for Australia compared to GfK/Sony [Bravia] figures):

Australia:
week 8, 2008

01 (01) [NDS] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
02 (__) [PS2] Guitar Hero III Bundle
03 (10) [NDS] Kageyama's Maths Training
04 (__) [NDS] High School Music
05 (__) [NDS] Cooking Mama 2
06 (__) [PS3] Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
07 (03) [360] Devil May Cry 4
08 (04) [PS3] Devil May Cry 4
09 (__) [360] Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
10 (08) [360] Lost Odyssey



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

BKK2 on 04 March 2008

ELSPA have updated their site with February award winners.

New Award winners in February 2008:

Platinum (300K):

42 ALL-TIME CLASSICS (NDS)
CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE (PS3)
THE SIMS 2 (NDS)

Gold (200K):

POKEMON PEARL (NDS)
FIFA 08 (PSP)

Silver (100K):

MYSIMS (WII)
SUPER MONKEY BALL: BANANA BLITZ (WII)
KANE & LYNCH: DEAD MEN (PS3)
PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: AT WORLD'S END (WII)
WWE SMACKDOWN VS RAW 2008 (WII)
HAMSTERZ (NDS)
MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES (NDS)
THE SIMS 2: BON VOYAGE (PC)

There's a thread with ELSPA/Chart-Track LTD Charts for the current gen consoles here.



sharky on 04 March 2008
MikeB said:
@ Dallinor

The 360 has a 1 million lead on the PS3 in the UK.

Despite this there are more PS3 titles charting in the top 40 then there are 360 titles.

What is going on?


Probably it's not really 2:1 (we know the PS3 is slightly undertracked compared to Chart Track figures even after the big adjustment, maybe the 360 is a little overtracked).

Although not yet with similar gaps like in other European countries it's interesting to note various multi-platform titles for the PS3 have now started to outsell their 360 counterparts for week 9:

15 (15) [PS3] CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE
18 (14) [360] CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE

31 (23) [PS3] BURNOUT PARADISE
38 (29) [360] BURNOUT PARADISE

40 (26) [PS3] ASSASSIN'S CREED

 No not really. We see the 360 with two games in the top 5 and PS3 no games in the top 10. We also see Lost selling better on Xbox 360 than on Playstation 3 (I see you conveniently left that one out).

Just because PS3 has 1 more game in the top but they are all much lower ranked. Probably just because 360 is a older system, people are buying fewer but more varied PS3 titles, overall 360 selling more software. 

 



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Diomedes1976 on 04 March 2008

They count PS2 games ,but this UK chart is always "Full Price " and most PS2 games are platinum/budget games by now so its normal they doesnt chart .The same happen with many PSP games ,as the ELSPA report showed its share weight in the budget games increased from a 5%(full price ) to a 15% in budget .



MikeB on 04 March 2008
sharky said:
MikeB said:
@ Dallinor

The 360 has a 1 million lead on the PS3 in the UK.

Despite this there are more PS3 titles charting in the top 40 then there are 360 titles.

What is going on?


Probably it's not really 2:1 (we know the PS3 is slightly undertracked compared to Chart Track figures even after the big adjustment, maybe the 360 is a little overtracked).

Although not yet with similar gaps like in other European countries it's interesting to note various multi-platform titles for the PS3 have now started to outsell their 360 counterparts for week 9:

15 (15) [PS3] CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE
18 (14) [360] CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE

31 (23) [PS3] BURNOUT PARADISE
38 (29) [360] BURNOUT PARADISE

40 (26) [PS3] ASSASSIN'S CREED

No not really. We see the 360 with two games in the top 5 and PS3 no games in the top 10. We also see Lost selling better on Xbox 360 than on Playstation 3 (I see you conveniently left that one out).

Just because PS3 has 1 more game in the top but they are all much lower ranked. Probably just because 360 is a older system, people are buying fewer but more varied PS3 titles, overall 360 selling more software.

 


No the original chart is still listed within the original post, I am pointing out something more interesting. Consider the 360 still has considerably a larger install base in both the UK and Australia. Lost being ranked one place above the PS3 isn't really interesting it should really be expected for the UK, maybe one should even expect a larger gap.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

FishyJoe on 04 March 2008
Diomedes1976 said:
They count PS2 games ,but this UK chart is always "Full Price " and most PS2 games are platinum/budget games by now so its normal they doesnt chart .The same happen with many PSP games ,as the ELSPA report showed its share weight in the budget games increased from a 5%(full price ) to a 15% in budget .

Then how do you explain all the DS titles that are charting???



sharky on 04 March 2008
MikeB said:
sharky said:
MikeB said:
@ Dallinor

The 360 has a 1 million lead on the PS3 in the UK.

Despite this there are more PS3 titles charting in the top 40 then there are 360 titles.

What is going on?


Probably it's not really 2:1 (we know the PS3 is slightly undertracked compared to Chart Track figures even after the big adjustment, maybe the 360 is a little overtracked).

Although not yet with similar gaps like in other European countries it's interesting to note various multi-platform titles for the PS3 have now started to outsell their 360 counterparts for week 9:

15 (15) [PS3] CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE
18 (14) [360] CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE

31 (23) [PS3] BURNOUT PARADISE
38 (29) [360] BURNOUT PARADISE

40 (26) [PS3] ASSASSIN'S CREED

No not really. We see the 360 with two games in the top 5 and PS3 no games in the top 10. We also see Lost selling better on Xbox 360 than on Playstation 3 (I see you conveniently left that one out).

Just because PS3 has 1 more game in the top but they are all much lower ranked. Probably just because 360 is a older system, people are buying fewer but more varied PS3 titles, overall 360 selling more software.

 


No the original chart is still listed within the original post, I am pointing out something more interesting. Consider the 360 still has considerably a larger install base in both the UK and Australia. Lost being ranked one place above the PS3 isn't really interesting it should really be expected for the UK, maybe one should even expect a larger gap.


 It just depends, 360 titles still rank much higher on the list, it's just exclusives this week.

 

May be some piracy affecting things too. 



BKK2 on 04 March 2008

We get the ChartTrack & ELSPA Monthly Report in the middle of the month. However, this only gives separate "FULL PRICE FORMAT SHARE" and "BUDGET FORMAT SHARE" charts. For January it looked like this:

FULL PRICE FORMAT SHARE (units)

1. Wii (21.2%)
2. PC (18.6%)
3. Xbox 360 (16.0%)
4. DS (15.9%)
5. PS3 (14.9%)
6. PS2 (8.0%)
7. PSP (5.2%)
8. Mac (0.3%)

FULL PRICE FORMAT SHARE (value)

1. Wii (22.1%)
2. PC (20.9%)
3. Xbox 360 (17.3%)
4. PS3 (16.9%)
5. DS (12.4%)
6. PS2 (5.9%)
7. PSP (3.8%)
8. Mac (0.7%)

BUDGET FORMAT SHARE (units)

1. DS (28.7%)
2. PC (24.2%)
3. PS2 (16.9%)
4. Wii (10.1%)
5. Xbox 360 (9.3%)
6. PSP (9.1%)
7. Xbox (0.4%)
8. GBA (0.3%)

BUDGET FORMAT SHARE (value)

1. DS (35.2%)
2. PS2 (16.6%)
3. PC (12.9%)
4. Wii (12.1%)
5. Xbox 360 (12.0%)
6. PSP (9.4%)
7. GBA (0.2%)
8. Xbox (0.1%)

We don't get monthly "ALL PRICES FORMAT SHARE" charts, but now Chart-Track have revealed PS3 outsold the PS2 in the "ALL PRICES FORMAT SHARE (units)" chart for the first time during the month of February. DS was number one with nearly 25%. In the "ALL PRICES FORMAT SHARE (value)" chart PS3 managed to outsell the PS2 for the first time during the month of January, continuing this in February.

FEBRUARY ALL PRICES FORMAT SHARE (units):

1: NDS (~25%)
*: PS3 (9.4%)
*: PS2 (8.3%)

Link

Hopefully Chart-Track will start to include All Prices Format Share charts in their monthly reports from now on.