HylianSwordsman said:
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The evidence I have that spurge is scum is based largely in his claims. He said he watched a jester go somewhere. That's clearly a lie. Not even a redirector can make a player go somewhere when they have no night power. Redirector's change targets. If a player can't target anyone, like a vanilla townie, a jester, or any passive role, then you can't change their target, because they don't have a target and can't have a target. Spurge did not track Smeags to anyone, because Smeags did not go anywhere. That alone should be enough, but spurge also claimed he was roleblocked Night 2, if I'm not mistaken. I really don't think there could be a redirector and a roleblocker. We know there was a ninja, there seems to be a janitor, there seems to be a poisoner (possibly SK, as I've mentioned), there's probably a redirector, and there might be a daytalk enabler. But enough speculation. If I'm not mistaken, Stefl has said he can protect people as a localized lightning rod. He says he protected spurge, yes? Doesn't that mean there can be no redirecting or roleblocking or bussing or whatever? So he could have targeted Khan. Yet Khan wasn't tracked, so spurge chose not to go to Khan. He said he was roleblocked, but it was clearly his choice, not scum's manipulation.
I absolutely support your plan. I believe Khan is a normal cop. Yoshiya may not be a redirector, but he's probably scum. Stefl seems to be telling the truth, though his role is certainly out there, but as I said, it can be summed up as a localized lightning rod. He may be lying, so maybe we should just protect Khan to be sure, but we risk losing a powerful role. ToDay I will probably vote Yoshiya. He's probably scum. The strongest evidence in his favor is that whatever he did didn't kill Stefl, so that suggests he may in fact be some kind of redirector. If he's actually telling the truth, then, wow, that seems like strange scum play to me, so maybe he's town. But I'm inclined to trust Khan's scans. At the end, I'll help ensure the protection of either Khan or Stefl. The only reason I hesitate on protecting Stefl is that if he's actually scum and gets protected, we're all screwed. If he's in fact scum, spurge could easily be town.
Spurge's misrepresentation of things feels scummy as hell. People say this is how he plays, but I'm not buying it. As for radish...yeah that really threw me for a loop. Doesn't make any sense. If he wasn't confirmed town, I'd begin suspecting him for that. But if he, spurge, and stefl were on a team, it would make sense. I want answers right now, however, not to start considering new, complex possibilities. Occam's razor. Let's go with what we know. Khan's a cop, he thinks Yoshiya is scum. Let's lynch Yoshiya today, protect Khan either directly or through Stefl, and have Khan investigate spurge.
Regarding padib voters being scum, it's certainly possible, but I'd say probably no more than one. A Khan lynch was within reach. So likely they're mostly on Khan, possibly one on padib. It's also possible that one or two of the non-voters are scum. Obviously I think Yoshiya is one, but Stefl may be as well.
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