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now, the thing is, spurge still might have said the truth with his day one result, but he should not be blocked no matter what night 2...



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Wonktonodi said:
Stefl1504 said:
Okay, so, I believe that Yoshiya is a fucking normal bus driver from what I got... now the question is, if Khan does see potentially dangerous items (since bus drivers actually can be dangerous)

Well, as I see it, spurge is lying anyway, there is no way he should've been blocked - specially without me seeing it.

The balance board makes kinda sense for this role. Well, and finally from a town perspective drivering away from spurge would also make more sense - because - you know, he can't be blocked, of course then again it would mean that I would be driven - like i said there are some paradoxes with my role, but my role is confirmed to grab in first. Now, with spurge telling us a jester targeting someone, me failing to realise that he has been lying. And finally, he is claiming that he got blocked tonight, which, with any particular actions going through shouldn't have happened, now what makes me wonder, how specific yoshiya at first was with spurge, while he then added astro to the equasion.

1 khan had a scan on yoshi that came back with te balance board, while it didn't come back with the watch

2. why would yoshi target 2 players he thinks are scum to try and redirect a kill

3. why not use the power on night 1 to extend protection to another player?


1. As khan clarified he only detects dangerous items, so we can conclude that Hylian is likly not dangerous, ie town.

2. I don't think they would. I'm fairly sure they are indeed mafia. I'm thinking yoshia went to switch spurg with a confirmed town because spurg was the most suspected and they figured khan or another scanning role would look into him. 

3. Not sure who you are referring to there? Stefl or Yoshia? I'm sure if Yoshia was town they would have but again I really don't think they are.

Now I don't know about you but i am seeing a lot of inconsistencies and so far the evidence is piling up that my theory was right. So far from the looks of it everyone seems to have at least 2 abilities except for the 3 biggest suspects that have shaky claims and just 1 ability. Astro comes in and claims beloved princess after you come out and just ask him if he is one. Entirly too convient and i don't beleive it, especially with his game play so far. Spurg comes in and says town is playing bad for looking into him and seeing he was full of shit. Yoshia shows faux confusion than claims bus driver, more or less admitting they are scum.

It is possible that hylian was bus'd night one. There is an easy solution however to find out if that happened. We lynch Yoshiya today then khan checks hylian again tonight. So basically stefl gets the hammer vote, protects khan and khan scan hylian. Then tom. you guys lynch spurg or Hylian depending on the outcome and the final day you take out astro. Easy peasy, Battle victory for town. 



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Going with on with Yoshi, he was evasive about his role, as if he had to come up with something, saying it is strange, and then he ended up a normal bus-driver, which I think is like not such an awefully weird role. Adding to that he only answered with targeting one person when I actually asked him about who he targeted he just leaves too many holes as to be anything else than proper scum.



Stefl1504 said:
Wonktonodi said:

1 khan had a scan on yoshi that came back with te balance board, while it didn't come back with the watch

2. why would yoshi target 2 players he thinks are scum to try and redirect a kill

3. why not use the power on night 1 to extend protection to another player?

1. I am still not sure how Khans role exactly interacts with people

2. I guess he wanted to acchieve what I wanted to acchieve by targeting spurge - doesn't matter tho really, since Yoshi also has some huge inconsistencies

3. Bus Drivers only compromise protection, not extend it

As I stand currently, both Yoshi and Spurge are proven to lie, now the bigger problem is who of the two is more likely to be mafia ... or even if at the same side of mafia, who of the two is more likely to be the stronger role for their side.


1. then read what khan posts

2. he says bussdriver but claims his role like a redirector( since he sounds like he wanted to move spurge's target (what he claims he though might have been a kill to another scum), though you might actutally be wrong about getting the result you wanted, lets say the buss driver trumps you, you then get all the actions that would have hit Astro, yoshi,  and radish who was trying to target spurge. While spurge would get all the actoins that would have hit Astro. Maybe a roll blocker

3. It compromises protections from other players, not other immunity, Night one bus Imp and someone he didn't want killed. Somone tries to kill the player he want's safe, if goes to imp and imp lives. Since Imp was already immune who would try and kill him?

4. Buss driver is a very dangerous roll for scum to have, it can add to confusion, and hide there actions. What Spurge has actually claimed isn't dangerous, but Ness could be very dangerous as well.



Just before i leave for now, I am going to say that impertinance, conegamer and clyde haven't gotten any proper view by me so far, so I feel really neutral on them... - can anyone share their thoughts on them, specially spurge, yoshiya and astroscum.

Finally, radish, I am asking you to get a bit more proactive, you are the only 100% town there is left after today. While Khan is also pretty obvtown, I still do not trust him 100%, which might be a bit iffy, but there is no indication that we are being played by him so far imho... oh well, not important really.



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Wonktonodi said:
Stefl1504 said:
Wonktonodi said:

1 khan had a scan on yoshi that came back with te balance board, while it didn't come back with the watch

2. why would yoshi target 2 players he thinks are scum to try and redirect a kill

3. why not use the power on night 1 to extend protection to another player?

1. I am still not sure how Khans role exactly interacts with people

2. I guess he wanted to acchieve what I wanted to acchieve by targeting spurge - doesn't matter tho really, since Yoshi also has some huge inconsistencies

3. Bus Drivers only compromise protection, not extend it

As I stand currently, both Yoshi and Spurge are proven to lie, now the bigger problem is who of the two is more likely to be mafia ... or even if at the same side of mafia, who of the two is more likely to be the stronger role for their side.


1. then read what khan posts

2. he says bussdriver but claims his role like a redirector( since he sounds like he wanted to move spurge's target (what he claims he though might have been a kill to another scum), though you might actutally be wrong about getting the result you wanted, lets say the buss driver trumps you, you then get all the actions that would have hit Astro, yoshi,  and radish who was trying to target spurge. While spurge would get all the actoins that would have hit Astro. Maybe a roll blocker

3. It compromises protections from other players, not other immunity, Night one bus Imp and someone he didn't want killed. Somone tries to kill the player he want's safe, if goes to imp and imp lives. Since Imp was already immune who would try and kill him?

4. Buss driver is a very dangerous roll for scum to have, it can add to confusion, and hide there actions. What Spurge has actually claimed isn't dangerous, but Ness could be very dangerous as well.

 @bolded, ah yes... true... derp...

I get the part that he only receives dangerous items, but 'dangerous' is quite iffy imho.

Well, I really gtg, dealing with the rest later.



Mr Khan said:
I'm still not 100% on yoshiya, but i think spurge's story's getting weaker.

unvote
vote:spurgeonryan


Really should've done that yesterday.


I think we should lynch Yoshi first.

there is your scan

his many inconsistencies

and the fact he targeted spurge, so lynching him and getting his role could help unravel more lies, or not this is a crazy mafia game.



Wonktonodi said:
Stefl1504 said:
Wonktonodi said:

1 khan had a scan on yoshi that came back with te balance board, while it didn't come back with the watch

2. why would yoshi target 2 players he thinks are scum to try and redirect a kill

3. why not use the power on night 1 to extend protection to another player?

1. I am still not sure how Khans role exactly interacts with people

2. I guess he wanted to acchieve what I wanted to acchieve by targeting spurge - doesn't matter tho really, since Yoshi also has some huge inconsistencies

3. Bus Drivers only compromise protection, not extend it

As I stand currently, both Yoshi and Spurge are proven to lie, now the bigger problem is who of the two is more likely to be mafia ... or even if at the same side of mafia, who of the two is more likely to be the stronger role for their side.


1. then read what khan posts

2. he says bussdriver but claims his role like a redirector( since he sounds like he wanted to move spurge's target (what he claims he though might have been a kill to another scum), though you might actutally be wrong about getting the result you wanted, lets say the buss driver trumps you, you then get all the actions that would have hit Astro, yoshi,  and radish who was trying to target spurge. While spurge would get all the actoins that would have hit Astro. Maybe a roll blocker

3. It compromises protections from other players, not other immunity, Night one bus Imp and someone he didn't want killed. Somone tries to kill the player he want's safe, if goes to imp and imp lives. Since Imp was already immune who would try and kill him?

4. Buss driver is a very dangerous roll for scum to have, it can add to confusion, and hide there actions. What Spurge has actually claimed isn't dangerous, but Ness could be very dangerous as well.


There is no evidence that that happened night one tho. So far all evidence points to both Yoshia and spurg being mafia. We lynch yoshia get answers and if they are town(which is not likly) then we know that both stefl and hylian are likely mafia instead since both of their information points to the fact that spurg didn't target anyone.



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Stefl1504 said:

Just before i leave for now, I am going to say that impertinance, conegamer and clyde haven't gotten any proper view by me so far, so I feel really neutral on them... - can anyone share their thoughts on them, specially spurge, yoshiya and astroscum.

Finally, radish, I am asking you to get a bit more proactive, you are the only 100% town there is left after today. While Khan is also pretty obvtown, I still do not trust him 100%, which might be a bit iffy, but there is no indication that we are being played by him so far imho... oh well, not important really.

If there's anything I can do to help, then just ask.

Also if we assume that Yoshiya is lying, maybe he bussed Noctis which is why Noctis is dead?



 

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Conegamer said:
Stefl1504 said:

Just before i leave for now, I am going to say that impertinance, conegamer and clyde haven't gotten any proper view by me so far, so I feel really neutral on them... - can anyone share their thoughts on them, specially spurge, yoshiya and astroscum.

Finally, radish, I am asking you to get a bit more proactive, you are the only 100% town there is left after today. While Khan is also pretty obvtown, I still do not trust him 100%, which might be a bit iffy, but there is no indication that we are being played by him so far imho... oh well, not important really.

If there's anything I can do to help, then just ask.

Also if we assume that Yoshiya is lying, maybe he bussed Noctis which is why Noctis is dead?

I think noctis was just killed because they were very experianced and a real threat. I don't think they were bussed at all. i think they attempted to bus spurg to protect him from being scanned. 



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