By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Nintendo - Could DMC4 be done on the Wii?

sc94597 on 01 March 2008

People who say the wii has last gen graphics maybe the ps3 and 360 are ahead of their time and the wii is what graphics should be from the technology we have for a resonable price.



Around the Network
fazz on 01 March 2008
sc94597 said:
People who say the wii has last gen graphics maybe the ps3 and 360 are ahead of their time and the wii is what graphics should be from the technology we have for a reasonable price.

Nah, those people just want to express their hate towards the Wii. They don't even know about graphics or technology. 360/PS3 are not ahead of their time.



LordTheNightKnight on 01 March 2008
fazz said:
^That's quite a rudimentary way to calculate computational power. And since when is the Cell clocked at a higher speed than Xenon?

And for the records, the Wii can have the same memory bandwidth of the PS3 and 360. It uses the same memory.

And the Wii is not a single unit processor, so his math is even more faulty. 



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

sc94597 on 01 March 2008
LordTheNightKnight said:
fazz said:
^That's quite a rudimentary way to calculate computational power. And since when is the Cell clocked at a higher speed than Xenon?

And for the records, the Wii can have the same memory bandwidth of the PS3 and 360. It uses the same memory.

And the Wii is not a single unit processor, so his math is even more faulty.


 What do you mean?  I thought broadway was a single core.



windbane on 01 March 2008
LordTheNightKnight said:
polishforlife said:
I've seen the specs and there it is a difference
Processors:
wii
CPU: , reportedly? clocked at 729 MHz
GPU: ATI GPU made 243 MHz
Those are for xbox(original)
CPU 733 MHz Intel Pentium III-based Mobile Celeron
GPU 233 MHz nVidia NV2A

So wii may be more powerful than xbox by being more efficient and can could handle the gameplay but it wouldn't be the similar and had to cut things out.
It doesn't have similar specs to Ps3 or Xbox360. Period.

"The Wii isn't just a last gen



Around the Network
LordTheNightKnight on 01 March 2008
windbane said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
polishforlife said:
I've seen the specs and there it is a difference
Processors:
wii
CPU: , reportedly? clocked at 729 MHz
GPU: ATI GPU made 243 MHz
Those are for xbox(original)
CPU 733 MHz Intel Pentium III-based Mobile Celeron
GPU 233 MHz nVidia NV2A

So wii may be more powerful than xbox by being more efficient and can could handle the gameplay but it wouldn't be the similar and had to cut things out.
It doesn't have similar specs to Ps3 or Xbox360. Period.

"The Wii isn't just a last gen system. It has similar specs, but the components are based on the efficiency standards now, not then. Of course the 360 and PS3 get the same benefits, but the point is that the Wii does too."

This is what I wrote. It does not claim that the Wii has similar specs than the 360 and PS3. It just points out that the components with those specs are still five years ahead of the 6th gen systems.

For one thing, the Wii and Xbox's CPU have the same speeds, but the Wii's CPU uses less electricity, and is overall more powerful. And according to unofficial reports, the Wii's CPU has the execution unit's which add to the processing the CPU can do. The Xbox's CPU could not handle all the Wii channels.

For another, the Wii has as much memory as the Xbox and Gamecube combined. That means it has merely a fifth as much memory as the PS3 and 360, while the actual sitxh gen systems have an eigth at best.

As for GPUs, of course it's not enough having half the clock speed, and simply having more pixel and shading pipelines, but it still puts it well ahead of the 6th gen GPUs.

In short, the Wii of course can't match the PS3 and 360. Yet its specs are not as far behind them as systems an actual generation behind.


If the system that more powerful than he GC and Xbox, then why do all the big Wii titles look like GC games? Galaxy is only marginally better than Sunshine, MP3 marginally better, Brawl the same, Zelda since it was just a port, etc.

That is your subjective opinion on the graphics. In terms of actual detail, those games, aside from Zelda, but including No More Heroes, are past what the GC can handle.

Are you saying that not only did Nintendo not bother using HD hardware that they are also barely bothering to use the hardware improvements as well?

Just because you don't see they are doesn't mean they aren't.

Edit: It just seems to me that they know Wii owners aren't going to care if the graphics improve and in fact fans are praising the graphical "enchancements" at the same time they say HD graphics don't matter. I think that's mission accomplished for Nintendo. I just wish fans would stop kiddin themselves and just enjoy the Wii for what it is instead of arguing that it is something that it isn't.


The fact is that the Wii is being pushed beyond the Gamecube. Some developers, like Retro, have even pointed out effects that couldn't even be done on the GC (could be faked, though). 



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

LordTheNightKnight on 01 March 2008
sc94597 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
fazz said:
^That's quite a rudimentary way to calculate computational power. And since when is the Cell clocked at a higher speed than Xenon?

And for the records, the Wii can have the same memory bandwidth of the PS3 and 360. It uses the same memory.

And the Wii is not a single unit processor, so his math is even more faulty.


What do you mean? I thought broadway was a single core.


Unit=/=core. 



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

fazz on 01 March 2008
windbane said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
polishforlife said:
stuff...

In short, the Wii of course can't match the PS3 and 360. Yet its specs are not as far behind them as systems an actual generation behind.


If the system that more powerful than he GC and Xbox, then why do all the big Wii titles look like GC games? Galaxy is only marginally better than Sunshine, MP3 marginally better, Brawl the same, Zelda since it was just a port, etc. 


And this is where I saw that: A) You never played Mario Sunshine, or B) I can't take you seriously anymore.

Seriously man, normal mapping, bump mapping, specular lights, specular reflections, fur simulation, bloom and 60 frames per second stable are are just marginally better?

/facepalm 



polishforlife on 01 March 2008

Even if i don't agree on DMC4 being easiely ported you can't say that super mario galaxy is just marginally better than sunshine.



LordTheNightKnight on 01 March 2008
polishforlife said:

Even if i don't agree on DMC4 being easiely ported you can't say that super mario galaxy is just marginally better than sunshine.


I should add that I don't think a port would be easy (even on the PS2, RE4 had to have the graphics redrawn from scratch), there is a difference between not easy and pain in the ass. 



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs