padib said:
Tamron said:
padib said:
1) I'm not talking about what the topic is, I know what it is. I asked you to stop treating me like a troll. If I don't get some kind of acknowledgement on your part I will report you and insist that you get moderated. Learn to debate.
2) It's not about wanting to. We are talking about a number to represent a logical inference, that being the strength of Sony in Japan. From a home console perspective, the PS3's momentum is DOWNWARD. It's not climbing. I honestly see no added value that the PS3 numbers can provide to the PS4's current trend.
I am being reasonable. If I weren't I'd be including Wii lifetime numbers. Now that would be quite unfair wouldn't it?
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1) go ahead, i'd rather keep my integrity and risk a short ban than pander to your oversensitivity.
2) it does not matter if you do not see the point of including the PS3's sales or not, the console is still being sold at retail, and is still pulling worthwhile numbers, as such it's just as viable as any other currently available console.
IF we were trying to compare console lifetime numbers of the PS3, then you'd have reason to find issue with it, but we're not, we're comparing sales for a set timeframe, and the only logical reason for wanting to omit the sales data on a very selective manner is to skew numbers.
Sony state that they have 78% marketshare, and they do, wether or not you think the PS3 sales should count, on the other hand is not in any way relevant.
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1) What part of you treating me like a troll did you not understand. That's not integrity that's 1) disrespectful and 2) disingenuous. I am just posting my PoV and you are saying things like "Oh, nevermind, I get it!" Integrity my ass.
2) I never said their numbers were wrong, how many times do you need me to say that? I am saying that the numbers misrepresent an idea, to which the PS3 numbers bear no weight whatsoever.
Just nevermind we won't agree. I feel like you will never see what I mean.
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Out of curiosity though, WHY don't the PS3 numbers bear weight? I mean, if the Wii is discontinued, then wouldn't access to new Nintendo content- be it developers making new games, or people looking to purchase new titles- solely remain on the Wii U? o_O As opposed to the PS3 which, for consumers AND developers, remains a valid platform, resulting both in less 'system-moving' exclusives, and an undetermined split in sales.
Even JUST comparing PS4 and Wii U sales is disregarding the potential impact of Nintendo putting all their console eggs in a single basket. Then there's the issue that the Wii U has an established install base from which to grow, though usual word of mouth and socially-driven sales, means that comparing sales of a console in its second year to a console in its first is a bit disingenuous.
We can't even compare the PS4's Japan launch period to the Wii U's Japan launch period, because the Wii U launched in December, which could (and likely did) have boosted sales.
There's NO way to 'fairly' compare the sales of the PS4 and Wii U, just lots of 'relatively unfair' ways that's going to stack the chips in favor of either Sony or Nintendo.
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