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A study like this should have a larger sample size, and shouldn't be this quick. Going through adulthood and through their lives, now that'll be a good study.

padib said: 

 4. Surprised is one way to put it. He may have been. I'm not sure God can predict all our choices since he gave us free will. That's...

Sorry for butting in, normally I would ignore conversations like these, especially from those "I don't need evidence for this, but it's still as accurately possible as your Science because of one source" people. However, this was a rather interesting comment for a believer of God, and this particular viewpoint would contradict some previous notions about God that are held to be the "absolute truth". This "God" of yours is Omniscient, correct? He is all-knowing, and sees everything: past, present and future, can see "the passage of fate" for the lack of better wording. Consider this: the fact that he would act surprised and would have "hoped" that they wouldn't have eaten from the tree suggests that he had little or no prior knowledge of this occurence. Hoping for something or ending up suprised over an event would imply something unexpected. If this was the case, then he isn't "all-knowing" because he didn't see this coming, and could not fullfill the already established concept of being "all-knowing".

Please clarify that stance if there's anyway an omniscient being can not know something. If he did see this coming, then why didn't he do anything about it? It seems to me that he lacks the power to change the future (Lol, as cheesy as it sounds). If that's the case, then that would imply he's not all powerful. I always imagined that followers of God or Gods wouldn't believe or do things that would be in direct violation of thier pre-established beliefs....



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I think similar would results would occur if you exposed them to video game fiction as well. There's no surprise here. This is about fiction and imagination, not purely religion.



Finally read it all -_- some random thoughts based on what i read:

- The study is completely useless as many pointed it, they should spend their time and money doing something productive

- The definition of religion everyone has in their mind is skewing the whole debate. I believe that the word religion could easily be replaced by ideology.

- Every ideology hhs a system by which society is governed and a system for defence and expansion (i.e. Secularism>Democracy>Colonialism or Islam >Shariah>Jihad)

- Atheism isn't nearly as widely adopted as many like to think

- To say we don't need to extract our morals from religion is ridiculous.

 

- Attempting to refute the existence of God by saying  "if god exists why does so much shit happen" is really an incredibly childish argument lol.

We could have a huge discussion about each of these points but I'd prefer not to do it on the thread, feel free to PM me.

Just needed to share my thoughts :) I am a Muslim btw

 

oh! And God does not make mistakes  :)



Grown up people have a difficulty to distinguish between fact and fiction of studies presented to them



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

VanceIX said:
Yup. My belief is still that people should let their children make their own decisions for religion, instead of preaching it at such a young age where the child will believe just about anything.

I believe that also, thing is they want to strike when they're vulnerable. I really disapprove of such tactics like these.

Anyways this study doesn't surprise me in the least.



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I never claimed that my opinion meant much but i couldn't see so much crap be spewed out and say nothing haha

My preexisting framework was undoubtedly moulded by the scriptures themselves, since i was raised islamically.

To rely on human emotions ajd a general code of fairness is an extremely fickle way to develop morally. People have this delusion that society has prgressed morally... look at homosexuality for example, it was popular back in the day, deemed immoral by our grandparents' generation and now it's the in-thing again. Nothing changed lol. Give it a hundred years and it will be disgusting again.

I am happy to do ehatever God has ordered me to do, whether i agree with it or not. Once you believe that there is a creator wholeheartedly what right do you have to disobey him?

There are so many underlying factors to discuss here that i wouldn't know where to start lol :'(



Re: kids,

If you truly believe that the religion you follow is true, why would you risk your child choosing the wrong one?



My God doesn't order anything like that so thankfully that scenario will never play out :D

You proved my point perfectly. If i speak against homosexuality i look like a bigoted prick - 100 years or so ago if you spoke FOR it you'd be the outcast... that was my point, public opinion is too shakey to base anything upon. I prefer to follow a moral standard that was set by a divine being who knows what has passed and what will come. Surely having knowledge of everything ever puts God in a greater position than us to decide what is good or bad



nil8r153 said:


I am happy to do ehatever God has ordered me to do, whether i agree with it or not. Once you believe that there is a creator wholeheartedly what right do you have to disobey him?

There are so many underlying factors to discuss here that i wouldn't know where to start lol :'(


So you're god's slave then. I don't understand your mentality. Even if I believed in god I wouldn't blindly follow his commands. What right does God have to tell anyone what to do?



nil8r153 said:
My God doesn't order anything like that so thankfully that scenario will never play out :D

You proved my point perfectly. If i speak against homosexuality i look like a bigoted prick - 100 years or so ago if you spoke FOR it you'd be the outcast... that was my point, public opinion is too shakey to base anything upon. I prefer to follow a moral standard that was set by a divine being who knows what has passed and what will come. Surely having knowledge of everything ever puts God in a greater position than us to decide what is good or bad


Your god is also in favor of slavery. I wonder when that will come back in style.