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LemonSlice on 31 August 2014
C64 said:
LemonSlice said:

Atheist children don't have imagination confirmed. Poor kids.


Nah, there's no need to fill infant minds with bullsh*t in order to make them imaginative. In fact I'd even say that it would be rather counterproductive.

Why? The Bible is quite more imaginative than a science textbook.

Is Lord of the Rings unimaginative? Are the works of Bach?



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Aura7541 on 31 August 2014
Soriku said:
Rawrerer said:

Alumina is Al2O3

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_oxide

That would be pretty wierd for aluminium not to become a compound chemical with such abundance of oxygen.  Yes i was typing fast and said carbonite which is actually not a different ionic compound like you said it doesn't exist. Ionic carbon is called carbanions.

Anyways what i am saying is for the right circumstances earth has to have an iron core for a magnetic field to protect the rna thats created, which means most of the iron is already in the center of the planet. And earth has to have enough mass to have an atmosphere, look at mars barely less massive then earth yet doesn't have enough mass to have a meaningful atmosphere or enough pressure on its core to start it up to create a magnetic field. So hence by the time earth was ready to create life earth was almost 100% its current mass and chemical makeup. Early earth models show carbon dioxide and nitrogen create nitrites, which destroy amino acids as fast as they form.  So that is why i left out the next paragraph because anyone who can do deductive reason can figure out there wasn't much iron around for ammino acids to cling to.

And again i am not saying life arising on earth is impossible just highly improbable. I would love for someone to find conclusive evidence that life arose on Earth that would be awesome.

Athiesm rejectis something without proof. Hence why it needs belief and faith hence why it is a religion.

The burden of proof should be on anyone who wants the truth that is why athiesm is a religion as well because they don't seek the truth.

Also i would watch out what you read on wiki since anyone can write on there or change it... Bad source


lmao

Atheists reject gods out of lack of proof. It's on you to prove this god of yours exists. If there is no compelling evidence, there is no reason to believe this. In the same way that without compelling evidence for unicorns, vampires, and leprechauns, there's no reason to believe in them. Atheism is not a religion. You don't even seem to understand the defintion of religion that you posted above. Stop being simple-minded already.

You can disprove the Bible by looking at the historicity of the stories and how they different from scientific, archaeological, and anthropological observations.

The burden of proof is on whoever makes the claim. Don't change the burden of proof to fit your needs

Your last sentence is hilarious. You're telling him to watch out what he reads on Wiki while posting Wikipedia articles yourself.

This is what I've been saying to him multiple times, but he just doesn't listen. Some people just won't admit that religion is nothing more than a product of the human imagination.

Here's a funny, but very accurate video on the Bible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk



Mr.Playstation on 31 August 2014
Aura7541 said:
Soriku said:
Rawrerer said:

Alumina is Al2O3

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_oxide

That would be pretty wierd for aluminium not to become a compound chemical with such abundance of oxygen.  Yes i was typing fast and said carbonite which is actually not a different ionic compound like you said it doesn't exist. Ionic carbon is called carbanions.

Anyways what i am saying is for the right circumstances earth has to have an iron core for a magnetic field to protect the rna thats created, which means most of the iron is already in the center of the planet. And earth has to have enough mass to have an atmosphere, look at mars barely less massive then earth yet doesn't have enough mass to have a meaningful atmosphere or enough pressure on its core to start it up to create a magnetic field. So hence by the time earth was ready to create life earth was almost 100% its current mass and chemical makeup. Early earth models show carbon dioxide and nitrogen create nitrites, which destroy amino acids as fast as they form.  So that is why i left out the next paragraph because anyone who can do deductive reason can figure out there wasn't much iron around for ammino acids to cling to.

And again i am not saying life arising on earth is impossible just highly improbable. I would love for someone to find conclusive evidence that life arose on Earth that would be awesome.

Athiesm rejectis something without proof. Hence why it needs belief and faith hence why it is a religion.

The burden of proof should be on anyone who wants the truth that is why athiesm is a religion as well because they don't seek the truth.

Also i would watch out what you read on wiki since anyone can write on there or change it... Bad source


lmao

Atheists reject gods out of lack of proof. It's on you to prove this god of yours exists. If there is no compelling evidence, there is no reason to believe this. In the same way that without compelling evidence for unicorns, vampires, and leprechauns, there's no reason to believe in them. Atheism is not a religion. You don't even seem to understand the defintion of religion that you posted above. Stop being simple-minded already.

You can disprove the Bible by looking at the historicity of the stories and how they different from scientific, archaeological, and anthropological observations.

The burden of proof is on whoever makes the claim. Don't change the burden of proof to fit your needs

Your last sentence is hilarious. You're telling him to watch out what he reads on Wiki while posting Wikipedia articles yourself.

This is what I've been saying to him multiple times, but he just doesn't listen. Some people just won't admit that religion is nothing more than a product of the human imagination.

Here's a funny, but very accurate video on the Bible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk

Guess every Jew and Atheist back then who mentiond Jesus and how he was somehow had powers somewhat of this world were hallucinating. Religion is not a product of human imagination please remember that!



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Aura7541 on 31 August 2014
Mr.Playstation said:

Guess every Jew and Atheist back then who mentiond Jesus and how he was somehow had powers somewhat of this world were hallucinating. Religion is not a product of human imagination please remember that!

Saying that God exists is equivalent to saying that a pink unicorn with rainbow feathers exists. I can't disprove the notion that a pink unicorn exists because I never seen one. However, people question that notion. The same thing applies to God or gods depending on the religion.

Also, the Jesus you're referring to is the Biblical Jesus and the Bible is a fictional story written by mutliple people. It's poorly written and has a lot of contradictions. The actual Jesus was a Jew who acted against the Roman Empire because of their discrimmination against the Jews. Here is one of Reza Aslan's interviews on his book, "Zealot": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKc2kjgo7dU

TL;DR: Religion is a product of human imagination. Say "nuh-uh" or the like doesn't change that. I apologize for breaking the bad news.



mornelithe on 31 August 2014
Mr.Playstation said:

Guess every Jew and Atheist back then who mentiond Jesus and how he was somehow had powers somewhat of this world were hallucinating. Religion is not a product of human imagination please remember that!

And what about the millions of people who've seen the miracles of Sai Baba, far more first hand accounts than that of Jesus Christ...and, they're actually current, not just 2000+ years old. 



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ninjaman003 on 31 August 2014
DarkWraith said:
Children Exposed To Religion Have Difficulty Distinguishing Fact From Fiction, Study Finds

Young children who are exposed to religion have a hard time differentiating between fact and fiction, according to a new study published in the July issue of Cognitive Science.

Researchers presented 5- and 6-year-old children from both public and parochial schools with three different types of stories -- religious, fantastical and realistic –- in an effort to gauge how well they could identify narratives with impossible elements as fictional.

The study found that, of the 66 participants, children who went to church or were enrolled in a parochial school were significantly less able than secular children to identify supernatural elements, such as talking animals, as fictional.

By relating seemingly impossible religious events achieved through divine intervention (e.g., Jesus transforming water into wine) to fictional narratives, religious children would more heavily rely on religion to justify their false categorizations.

“In both studies, [children exposed to religion] were less likely to judge the characters in the fantastical stories as pretend, and in line with this equivocation, they made more appeals to reality and fewer appeals to impossibility than did secular children,” the study concluded.

Refuting previous hypotheses claiming that children are “born believers,” the authors suggest that “religious teaching, especially exposure to miracle stories, leads children to a more generic receptivity toward the impossible, that is, a more wide-ranging acceptance that the impossible can happen in defiance of ordinary causal relations.” According to 2013-2014 Gallup data, roughly 83 percent of Americans report a religious affiliation, and an even larger group -- 86 percent -- believe in God.

More than a quarter of Americans, 28 percent, also believe the Bible is the actual word of God and should be taken literally, while another 47 percent say the Bible is the inspired word of God.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/21/children-religion-fact-fiction_n_5607009.html

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Obvious, no? still, nice to have studies confirming it.

1. Rammifications?
2. Still see religion as a positive influence on a child's mind?

Because children can obviously figure out the difference right? There is an obvious correlation between believing religious texts and fantasy books, but you're going to need a better way to attack religion. You don't want to believe there was a flood. Fine by me, but this isn't really a reason to discredit religion.



Rawrerer on 31 August 2014
Puppyroach said:
Rawrerer said:

So lets do an experiment puppyroach if God came down to just you and said "Hey man I exist!" You were the only one that seen him heard him and

he was gone just as fast as he came. You have no imperical scientific evidence. What would you believe?

a. You were drugged

b. You are schizophrenic

c. someone has created a holographic projections.

d. God exists.

what is your answer?

I would probably suffer some kind of mental disorder but wouldn't know it because I was suffering from it. But yeah, that would be the most probable explanation. However, if we somehow could prove the existence of a god, wouldn't that god become part of science and no longer supernatural?

84 percent of the human population is religious. Is there a growing mental disorder in humans?



ninjaman003 on 31 August 2014
Rawrerer said:
Puppyroach said:
Rawrerer said:
 

So lets do an experiment puppyroach if God came down to just you and said "Hey man I exist!" You were the only one that seen him heard him and

he was gone just as fast as he came. You have no imperical scientific evidence. What would you believe?

a. You were drugged

b. You are schizophrenic

c. someone has created a holographic projections.

d. God exists.

what is your answer?

I would probably suffer some kind of mental disorder but wouldn't know it because I was suffering from it. But yeah, that would be the most probable explanation. However, if we somehow could prove the existence of a god, wouldn't that god become part of science and no longer supernatural?

84 percent of the human population is religious. Is there a growing mental disorder in humans?

No, we're just really stupid because apparently no evidence means it's impossible and it's more likely that the universe just appeared out nowhere.



Mr.Playstation on 31 August 2014
Aura7541 said:
Mr.Playstation said:

Guess every Jew and Atheist back then who mentiond Jesus and how he was somehow had powers somewhat of this world were hallucinating. Religion is not a product of human imagination please remember that!

Saying that God exists is equivalent to saying that a pink unicorn with rainbow feathers exists. I can't disprove the notion that a pink unicorn exists because I never seen one. However, people question that notion. The same thing applies to God or gods depending on the religion.

Also, the Jesus you're referring to is the Biblical Jesus and the Bible is a fictional story written by mutliple people. It's poorly written and has a lot of contradictions. The actual Jesus was a Jew who acted against the Roman Empire because of their discrimmination against the Jews. Here is one of Reza Aslan's interviews on his book, "Zealot": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKc2kjgo7dU

TL;DR: Religion is a product of human imagination. Say "nuh-uh" or the like doesn't change that. I apologize for breaking the bad news.

You honestly think, that I have never taught that God could be non-existant just like your pink unicorn which you placed as an example. I only follow christianty since I want to believe in my life that when death happeans ( You know the phase of life which happeans to everyone non-believers and believers ) life won't competly end there I will got to heaven or hell . I don't know what your belief is though I expect you are an atheist, so here is my question,  what will happean after you die, doesn't the prospect scare you of dying /



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ninjaman003 on 31 August 2014
Mr.Playstation said:
Aura7541 said:
Mr.Playstation said:

Guess every Jew and Atheist back then who mentiond Jesus and how he was somehow had powers somewhat of this world were hallucinating. Religion is not a product of human imagination please remember that!

Saying that God exists is equivalent to saying that a pink unicorn with rainbow feathers exists. I can't disprove the notion that a pink unicorn exists because I never seen one. However, people question that notion. The same thing applies to God or gods depending on the religion.

Also, the Jesus you're referring to is the Biblical Jesus and the Bible is a fictional story written by mutliple people. It's poorly written and has a lot of contradictions. The actual Jesus was a Jew who acted against the Roman Empire because of their discrimmination against the Jews. Here is one of Reza Aslan's interviews on his book, "Zealot": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKc2kjgo7dU

TL;DR: Religion is a product of human imagination. Say "nuh-uh" or the like doesn't change that. I apologize for breaking the bad news.

You honestly think, that I have never taught that God could be non-existant just like your pink unicorn which you placed as an example. I only follow christianty since I want to believe in my life that when death happeans ( You know the phase of life which happeans to everyone non-believers and believers ) life won't competly end there I will got to heaven or hell . I don't know what your belief is though I expect you are an atheist, so here is my question,  what will happean after you die, doesn't the prospect scare you of dying /

I'm a Christian and I honestly think that's kind of a sad reason to believe in God. There's really a lot more reasons than that. Well at least you aren't blinded by "science" and "common sense" as they like to disguise it as.