lot of arguing in here and wow at the poll you guys need to man up and post your projections (both sides) so we can get a better picture to how your thinking and when the thread gets revisited props can be givin

heres mine from earlier in the thread very quick and rough numbers i feel XB1 will get good boosts from titles like COD GTA Halo and destiny aswell as the bundles there gonna release plus there releasing in other regions of the world many in here said that "well PS4 is getting these 3rd party games"... who cares this isnt about ps4 sales these 3rd party games aint coming to the WiiU meaning it wont get the bumps in HW sales the XB1 WILL get

Xb1

Aug-Oct 1.5-2M

Nov-Dec 4M-5M

5.5-7M

Wiiu

Aug-Oct 1-1.5M

Nov-Dec 2.5-3.5M

3.5-5M

guys also remember that the shipped numbers are to june 30 so it might not be that overtracked

Funny logic here, can you explain why wiiU is outselling it on a weekly basis then? And also, going from a 20k baseline to selling almost 2million units in the holiday period is pretty damn solid if you ask me (all relative of course). And with this year's increased baseline for wiiU and much bigger games, you can sure as heck expect a much bigger holiday season.

I'm just curious, what numbers are you expecting both systems to do this holiday? Because going by your comment, you're definetely expecting much bigger numbers this holiday for XBO then wiiU right? 

I will be one of the few to say that the X1 will be on top at the end of the year.

Yau make a good point about smash, but I think one big factor that a lot of people are forgetting and underestimating is that the X1 is launching in 8 more European countiries, China, Japan, as well as some other smaller markets this fall.

Now while this isn't going to increase the X1's sales a crazy amount, it will add at least a couple hundred thousand sales for the launch period, and seadily bump the X1's weekly sales starting at the end of September.

Also, as some one else mentioned, 3rd party games such as Desitiny or Cod will bump up sales, as will thier 3 AAA exclusives which are each spaced a month apart to build up momentum, culminating with the biggest of the 3, the Master Chief Collection.

Now this is purely my opinion, but I don't think that Hyrule Warriours, and Bayonetta hold as much mainstream appeal as Forza Horizon 2 & Sunset Overdrive.  They are both verry niche games, and I'm glad Nintendo is doing them, but I don't think they will have as much sales impact as thier competition.

Now as far as smash goes, I am curious to see how well it will do.  Especially since it is comming out first to the 3DS.  I think it will still move a good bit of Wii Us since it is the holiday, but will encounter simular boundries as Mario 3D World did last year.

I am also curious to see how good Halo MCC does as it is a remaster.  I think that it will do great, and that MS will try to double dip with it by offering a bundle at launch and then making a discounted bundle (even cheaper) just for the holidays.  I think it will arouse a lot of interest not only because of it's nostalgic value, but also because there will be a Halo 5 beta included in it, which curiously begins just 2 days after Christmas (hence why it will do so well as a christmas gift).

Nintendo consoles in general get a bigger boost in December than the other consoles because a bigger % of people who buy Nintendo consoles are parents buying their kid a gift for Xmas.

Nintendo sells a larger % of their consoles in december than Sony or Microsoft.

I'd just like to point out that the WiiU out sold the Xbox One in both May and June and likely did the same in July. I actually think that there is a chance the WiiU will still have an advantage of over 1,000,000 consoles at the end of the year.

Except we don't know that it is, European tracking here is too spotty to call. We know Japan + US XB1 came out on top for May and June (will find out July soon).

What we know about X1 is that the US had a decent number of Xbox loyalists who jumped in early. Since then, it's been crickets, and the numbers have gone from bad to worse. I'm expecting July to look like it's returned to pre-$399 weekly averages of 35-40k/week at best, and perhaps weaker than that.

So the question then becomes : will MS be able to start pulling the non-hardcore in? It's a good question honestly.

Relatively decent software sales to the rabid fans that bought in at $499 is meaningless. The hardcore fanbase will buy anything (as seen by decent sales of meh titles like KZ:SF, Ryse, yadda/infinity). The larger market though, will take a lot more work, and is much more likely to follow the leader.

Holding up the PS3 as some paragon of success in the US is pretty terrible honestly. The PS3 was a dismal presence in the US overall. A VERY sizable chunk of them sold were only ever used as Bluray players. The 360 absolutely dominated the US, and the PS3 mostly existed in the gaming community as the EXTRA system, not as the primary system. That was achieved partly due to the thing not requiring a subscription to make decent use of it. With the XB1, it makes a horrendous extra system, as it's near-useless without XBLG. The U makes a far better (and more affordable) companion to a PS4 and/or PC setup.

So we're back to : Xbox fans need to be convinced to drop 360 and go XB1 instead of PS4. XB1 will sell on exclusives. Multiplats will be a L for XB1 overall, as the de-facto multiplat preferred platform is and will be PS4 from here out (just like 360 dominated multiplats last time).

It's a real bind. I don't see XB1 picking up enough slack to catch the U this year. Smash will catch fire, and I think everyone with functioning headmeat knows that a price cut is in the cards.

A $299 XB1 or $349 MCC/SO Bundle .. now that would make me change my mind and tilt the odds in the XB1's favor a bit. $299 IS a magic number for a flagship console. As much as I like the U, it doesn't hold the 'flagship' mantle honestly. It's more of a niche unit for first-rate 1st party stuff and not much else.

I'm still expecting Smash Bros to get a last minute delay to 2015, if that happens then XBO will definitely pass WiiU this year.

He expects MCC will sell 5m alone in just a month and double the x1 installbase while the 5 exclusive for wii u will do combine 2m at most from now to the end of the year.

The wii u did bad last year cuz of the hype of ps4 vs x1 and all that with only one big game. This time around the wii u is in the spotlight so I expect the wii u will at least double its holliday sales with all of this exclusives to at least 3.2m. Also expect a bunch of diferent bundles. The baseline will increase to at least 75k.

X1 I think will do decent only cuz they are in desperate mode and no doubt drop the price this year, or some kind of 2 games free with a year of live,if they dont, I dont think they will sell 2m. The bundles they have anounced now with just madden or sunset overdrive will give almost no boost cuz madden is a mediocore game, and sunset a new IP from a sony studio.

Wii u over 10m by jan   X1 under 8m by jan